Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
aroma/profumo
English translation:
aroma/bouquet
Added to glossary by
carly kelly
Jul 14, 2009 20:31
14 yrs ago
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Italian term
aroma/profumo
Italian to English
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Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
vermouth
These are two headings from a market survey about a vermouth. I'm not entirely sure what the difference is between the two.
AROMA:
Aroma forte/ deciso/ persistente
Aroma delicato
Aroma speziato/ aromatizzato/ fruttato/ fiorito
PROFUMO
Profumo delicato/ mano intenso/ leggero/ rispecchia la delicatezza del profumo
Profumo dolce/ dolce al punto giusto
Profumo aromatico/ speziato/ aroma fruttato ( di fragole/ di mandorle)
Profumo di fiori/ floreale
aroma/fragrance??
Other headings include sapore, retrogusto, consistenza and colore.
TIA
AROMA:
Aroma forte/ deciso/ persistente
Aroma delicato
Aroma speziato/ aromatizzato/ fruttato/ fiorito
PROFUMO
Profumo delicato/ mano intenso/ leggero/ rispecchia la delicatezza del profumo
Profumo dolce/ dolce al punto giusto
Profumo aromatico/ speziato/ aroma fruttato ( di fragole/ di mandorle)
Profumo di fiori/ floreale
aroma/fragrance??
Other headings include sapore, retrogusto, consistenza and colore.
TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +3 | aroma/bouquet | julie-h |
5 +1 | nose and bouquet (or aroma: see below for distinction) | manducci |
5 | aroma(s), fragrance(s), scent(s), hints... | Dave Henderson |
4 | nose | Michael Korovkin |
References
difference btw profumo and aroma | julie-h |
Proposed translations
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aroma/bouquet
just a minute- I've found a video.
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Note added at 23 mins (2009-07-14 20:55:31 GMT)
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video not working but I found this: http://books.google.it/books?id=nzehk2Vu5K8C&pg=PA61&lpg=PA6...
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Note added at 23 mins (2009-07-14 20:55:31 GMT)
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video not working but I found this: http://books.google.it/books?id=nzehk2Vu5K8C&pg=PA61&lpg=PA6...
Peer comment(s):
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delveneto
: From wikipedia: "The most basic term is aroma which generally refers to a "pleasant" smell as opposed to odor ... The term aroma maybe further distinguished from bouquet which generally refers to the smells that arise from the chemical reactions ..."
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thank you
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
: "Bouquet" rather than "aroma." I associate "aromas" with cooking.
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thank you, although the point was to find two different terms
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agree |
Patrizia Costa
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thank you
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This question wasn't quite so cut and dry. Everyone seems to have different ideas as to what aroma/bouquet/nose etc actually mean. The issue is complicated all the more by the fact that we're talking about a Vermouth, not wines as such, and that the text (market research) is geared towards ordinary people who may not be familiar with many posh wine terms, such as "nose". Thanks Julie and everyone for your input."
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aroma(s), fragrance(s), scent(s), hints...
It is very difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between these terms in English wine-speak, as a glance at, say, the English edition of Gambero Rosso's annual wine guide will show. And the best glos, by Giles Watson, gives "fragrance, aroma" for both. Whether you use one or the other, or "scent, hint, nuance, suggestion, impression," etc., depends more on your ear and style than on a supposedly-objective definition--particularly definitions in Italian, which will give you NO guidance to the words' use in English..
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nose
A standard oenological term in English for this sort of things.
Lookitup!
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sorry, I forgot, the twit! Nose is for "aroma". Profumo would be "fragrance" or, very often, "accent".
Lookitup!
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sorry, I forgot, the twit! Nose is for "aroma". Profumo would be "fragrance" or, very often, "accent".
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21 hrs
nose and bouquet (or aroma: see below for distinction)
The distinction between aroma and bouquet is one of age as explained in the glossary quoted below:
aroma: Aroma is the smell of a young wine before it has had sufficient time to develop nuances of smell that are then called its bouquet. The word aroma is commonly used tohttp://www.proz.com/kudoz/3354454#marker_submit mean the smell of a relatively young, unevolved wine.
nose: The general smell and aroma of a wine as sensed through one's nose and olfactory senses is often called the wine's nose.
bouquet: As a wine's aroma becomes more developed from bottle aging, the aroma is transformed into a bouquet that is hopefully more than just the smell of the grape.
nose: The general smell and aroma of a wine as sensed through one's nose and olfactory senses is often called the wine's nose.
So as your case is talking about a single vermouth, I would go for nose and bouquet.
aroma: Aroma is the smell of a young wine before it has had sufficient time to develop nuances of smell that are then called its bouquet. The word aroma is commonly used tohttp://www.proz.com/kudoz/3354454#marker_submit mean the smell of a relatively young, unevolved wine.
nose: The general smell and aroma of a wine as sensed through one's nose and olfactory senses is often called the wine's nose.
bouquet: As a wine's aroma becomes more developed from bottle aging, the aroma is transformed into a bouquet that is hopefully more than just the smell of the grape.
nose: The general smell and aroma of a wine as sensed through one's nose and olfactory senses is often called the wine's nose.
So as your case is talking about a single vermouth, I would go for nose and bouquet.
Example sentence:
The smell of a wine. Fussy wine pros sometimes distinguish between aroma (the smell of young wines) and bouquet (more complex whiffs that come from bottle age).
Reference comments
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difference btw profumo and aroma
see this link for the difference. Seems a bit tenuous to me I must say.
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