New Proz feature proposal - CAT/software statistics for job ads
Thread poster: Tomas Mosler, DipTrans IoLET MCIL MITI
Tomas Mosler, DipTrans IoLET MCIL MITI
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Jun 17, 2009

My proposal for a little (just a few lines in code I think, as the data are entered and stored anyway) new feature:

Would it be possible (for paying members?) to see some basic statistics for the whole Proz market and/or their language pairs in regards to what CAT/software requirements (mandatory and optional) has been so far included in job ads?

Something like:
Since dd.mm.yyyy, job posters in this pair looked for translators who must/should have:
Trados: 1
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My proposal for a little (just a few lines in code I think, as the data are entered and stored anyway) new feature:

Would it be possible (for paying members?) to see some basic statistics for the whole Proz market and/or their language pairs in regards to what CAT/software requirements (mandatory and optional) has been so far included in job ads?

Something like:
Since dd.mm.yyyy, job posters in this pair looked for translators who must/should have:
Trados: 100 - 50
Wordfast: 20 - 10
Excel 2007: 50 - 30
Excel 2003: 40 - 20
Etc...

I think it could help to see what is the basic software demand, to know if one is not 100 years behind the monkeys, as we Czechs say and to get a picture (maybe imperfect, but better than nothing?) about the CAT trends?
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Epameinondas Soufleros
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That's a bad thing Jun 17, 2009

No, I strongly disagree. Why do harm to the other CAT manufacturers, such as MemoQ, who have produced excellent software? We all know Trados will be on top of your list, but not because it is the best tool —it is not, I believe.

 
Jeff Whittaker
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Software statistics Jun 17, 2009

It would not be accurate anyway because this would be (even more of) an incentive for companies to post fake jobs with CAT-tool requirements in order to make it "appear" as though people were using their software.

 
Uldis Liepkalns
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Probably Jun 17, 2009

DV, Wordfast, MemoQ, Omega T, Cafetrans and others have neglected to introduce their Certification Program and to pay Whomever to promote it...

However I believe Trados is doomed in the longer run- sky-high prices for not so competitive soft doesn't seem to me to be the best market strategy.

Uldis

Epameinondas Soufleros wrote:

No, I strongly disagree. Why do harm to the other CAT manufacturers, such as MemoQ, who have produced excellent software? We all know Trados will be on top of your list, but not because it is the best tool —it is not, I believe.


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Tomas Mosler, DipTrans IoLET MCIL MITI
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but Jun 17, 2009

But I'm not asking about "the best". That is partially a subjective value. I'm asking about "most demanded".

If I have the best tool, how good is it for me if no-one asks for a job to be done with it/its specific features?

And who wouldn't like the stats, may not read them.

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Jeff, I think even if it happened (they would get less replies with invalid limits), it would affect the
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But I'm not asking about "the best". That is partially a subjective value. I'm asking about "most demanded".

If I have the best tool, how good is it for me if no-one asks for a job to be done with it/its specific features?

And who wouldn't like the stats, may not read them.

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Jeff, I think even if it happened (they would get less replies with invalid limits), it would affect the overall numbers only on a very low level. Plus you could get the pre-feature ("not spoiled") stats at least.
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Claudio Porcellana (X)
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CAT/Software stats Jun 18, 2009

very good idea!
I agree
not the best ones but the most demanded, as you correctly stated
this option would be very useful for software purchasing decision making
I think

Claudio


 
Lectorcito
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File formats statistics instead of programs Jun 18, 2009

If a client says that Trados is needed for a project, most of the times that doesn't mean that Trados is the only tool that can do that project satisfactorily. I would find more useful statistics about file formats: how many clients need pdf, doc, ttx, or whatever. This option could still be useful for translators who would like to buy or upgrade their software and are willing to do a little research, but it would offer translators more freedom to choose whatever program one likes best.

 
Laurent KRAULAND (X)
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Hmmmm... Jun 18, 2009

Lectorcito wrote:


If a client says that Trados is needed for a project, most of the times that doesn't mean that Trados is the only tool that can do that project satisfactorily. I would find more useful statistics about file formats: how many clients need pdf, doc, ttx, or whatever. This option could still be useful for translators who would like to buy or upgrade their software and are willing to do a little research, but it would offer translators more freedom to choose whatever program one likes best.


I would agree on the file format statistics first and foremost. It is widely known (or am I assuming something here?) that some outsourcers name a software for the completion of a job even if the software in question is completely useless.

The best example to date was, if I am not mistaken, given in another thread: the outsourcer asked for a specific CAT tool in order to do... video transcription or subtitling. This is misleading for statistics!

And even the file format statistics would be misleading, as alternative formats can be used at least to some point: Open Office / Star Office formats can e.g. jump in for Microsoft ones. And when clients receive the target text in the format they requested, do they really care how the translation was processed?

Laurent K.

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Samuel Murray
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+1 Jun 18, 2009

Tomas Mosler wrote:
Would it be possible (for paying members?) to see some basic statistics for the whole Proz market and/or their language pairs in regards to what CAT/software requirements (mandatory and optional) has been so far included in job ads?


+1

At present, some CAT tools may seem popular simply because they have loud advocates on the forums. Some hard statistics may be nice to have.


 


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