May 27, 2023 08:14
12 mos ago
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German term
United States
Quality translations German to English
Native in: German 
Works in: German to English, English to German
geschäftsführende Direktoren vs. Geschäftsfüher
German to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Aus einem Gesellschaftsvertrag
A Geschäftsfüher gets appointed by the board and and I thought that this would make him/her a CEO. The problem is that this particular Gesellschaftsvertrag lists multiple Geschäftsfüher. For more context:
Vorstand, Leitungsorgan, geschäftsführende Direktoren, persönlich haftende Gesellschafter, Geschäftsführer, Vertretungsberechtigte und besondere Vertretungsbefugnis:
Geschäftsführer: Dr. XXX
Geschäftsführer: Herr
Mit der Befugnis, im Namen der Gesellschaft mit sich im eigenen Namen oder als Vertreter eines Dritten Rechtsgeschäfte abzuschließen:
Geschäftsführer: Dr. XXX
Vorstand, Leitungsorgan, geschäftsführende Direktoren, persönlich haftende Gesellschafter, Geschäftsführer, Vertretungsberechtigte und besondere Vertretungsbefugnis:
Geschäftsführer: Dr. XXX
Geschäftsführer: Herr
Mit der Befugnis, im Namen der Gesellschaft mit sich im eigenen Namen oder als Vertreter eines Dritten Rechtsgeschäfte abzuschließen:
Geschäftsführer: Dr. XXX
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | Managing director v Chief executive |
Andrew Bramhall
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| 3 | (Partnership / LLP / Personenges.) Chief Executive vs. Manager (Managing Partner) |
Adrian MM.
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| 3 | Executive Director v CEO |
AllegroTrans
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Proposed translations
+1
13 hrs
Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Flair and accuracy tailored to your text
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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4
Selected
Managing director v Chief executive
Board of Directors, management body, managing directors, general partners, chief executives, authorised representatives and special powers of representation:
Managing Director: Dr. XXX
Chief Executive: Mr.
With the power to enter into legal transactions on behalf of the company in his own name or on behalf of a third party:
Managing Director: Dr. XXX
Managing Director: Dr. XXX
Chief Executive: Mr.
With the power to enter into legal transactions on behalf of the company in his own name or on behalf of a third party:
Managing Director: Dr. XXX
Note from asker:
| Thank you. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you."
2 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
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19
German term (edited):
geschäftsführender Direktor vs. Geschäftsfüher
(Partnership / LLP / Personenges.) Chief Executive vs. Manager (Managing Partner)
I surmise that Gesellschaftsvertrag here is Articles or a Deed of *Partnership* (as I have drafted in practic/se), but often(times) wrongly assumed on ProZ and otherwise by lawyers (gappy-knowledge UK solicitors and accountants) who ought to know better - to be Articles of (US) Incorporation or (BrE/ Oz) Association of a (UK) ltd. company/ (US) corporation,
Cut to persönlich haftende Gesellschafter = general (individual or corporate-member GmbH) partner suggests it is an ordinary or general partnership: in a limited company or corp., this would be a counter-intuitive opening up of *unlimited* personal liability.
Executive director would connote a (UK) limited company or (US) corporation, otherwise an LLP that is a hybrid partnership / company.
Cut to persönlich haftende Gesellschafter = general (individual or corporate-member GmbH) partner suggests it is an ordinary or general partnership: in a limited company or corp., this would be a counter-intuitive opening up of *unlimited* personal liability.
Executive director would connote a (UK) limited company or (US) corporation, otherwise an LLP that is a hybrid partnership / company.
Example sentence:
IATE: geschäftsführender Direktor Chief Executive + Geschäftsführender Direktor Executive Director
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Peer comment(s):
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Andrew Bramhall
: Don't agree with your " surmisals" and your first paragraph is pompous drivel.
1 day 21 hrs
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: a confusing mish-mash not to mention the "explanation"
3 days 5 hrs
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1 day 7 hrs
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois)
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
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45
Executive Director v CEO
Asumung this is a company with a Board of Directors
Discussion
We use Managing Director within our group, anyone not a company official would "only" be a Director.
And yes, the registration doc will list if MDs are allowed to conclude business on their own or only together with another MD or a POA holder (Prokurist) while the articles of partnership or any downstream resolutions for changes will be much wordier than the registration doc.
"Ganz offensichtlich muß...einen Handelsregisterauszug übersetzen, der eine standardisierte Form hat."
https://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idForum=1&i...
So I'm curious as to why my colleagues believe this to be some kind of partnership agreement. A GmbH can have more than one "Geschäftsführer":
"Es können ein, zwei oder auch mehrere Geschäftsführer bestellt werden."
https://www.firma.de/firmengruendung/der-gmbh-geschaeftsfueh...
Even in the States, there's nothing preventing you from appointing more than one CEO. Netflix, for example, has two co-CEOs: https://about.netflix.com/en/news/ted-sarandos-greg-peters-c...