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Jun 22, 2022 09:23
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French term

justesse

French to English Marketing Wine / Oenology / Viticulture tasting notes
Tasting notes for a Saint-Joseph wine made with Syrah grapes. I'll give you the whole paragraph for context, but it's mainly the term "justesse" that I'm struggling with.

Le nez rappelle un panier de fruits rouges, avec des notes de pain d'épices. En bouche ce St Joseph est franc avec de la gourmandise et de la souplesse. Beaucoup d'équilibre et de *justesse* pour ce vin de plaisir.

Any help would be much appreciated!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +7 hits the right notes
4 +3 authenticity
3 +2 honest
4 high quality
4 -1 accuracy
References
Good idea to look at synonyms

Discussion

Carol Gullidge Jul 5, 2022:
A bit late, I know... but I can't help thinking that something more precise, such as Samuël's suggestion sounds far more appropriate. In my experience, French wine terms are extremely precise, and never the airy-fairy invented nonsense used by British and/or Aussie TV presenters of decades ago! You just can't get away with inventing some "appropriate-sounding" term nowadays.
I've found this term dotted around; I just wish I knew exactly what is meant!
AllegroTrans Jun 24, 2022:
Mark There are a few Fr-En wine-tasting glossaries on the www
Here is one of them, albeit it hasn't got "justesse"
https://www.aromadictionary.com/winetastingtrans-f-e.html
Conor McAuley Jun 22, 2022:
Hahaha...just had a quick look at Samuël's entry...you know what? LexiVin says "precision".
But I don't think it's right for this context.

I think this is an honest, full-hearted wine, nothing too fancy.
Conor McAuley Jun 22, 2022:
Nothing much helpful in LexiVin.
Samuël Buysschaert Jun 22, 2022:
Fwiw Just an idea,
maybe "precision"

Examples:
"Great precision and balance in the mouth, with velvety black fruit such as
blackcurrant and blackberry, but also a bright touch of redcurrant
that harmoniously integrates with notes of garrigue, thyme and white
pepper." La Madone
https://www.calmel-joseph.com/wp-content/plugins/cj-wine-pdf...

"It has a nose of healthy red and black fruit along with the dusty Red Mountain minerality. Medium to full-bodied, the palate reveals a well-made wine with precision and balance and evolving expressions of red flowers, dusty minerality and balancing tannins on the long, well-structured finish." Wine Advocate Cabernet Sauvignon
https://www.coolspringswines.com/products/13419418/canvasbac...

Proposed translations

+7
4 hrs
Selected

hits the right notes

I'm not sure there is a single correct translation for this term, but you could turn the sentence around a bit and lean into the musical definition of 'justesse', i.e. going for something like "This is an enjoyable, well-balanced wine that hits all the right notes."

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Thanks!
Example sentence:

Inky in color, the wine hits all the right notes with its floral, camphor, blackberry, incense, espresso and black currant aromatics.

Reference:

https://www.thewinecellarinsider.com/2021/06/best-2020-margaux-wines-tasting-notes-ratings-harvest-reports/

Peer comment(s):
neutral philgoddard : Good idea too.
1 hr
agree JH Trads : this solution sounds great
2 hrs
agree Conor McAuley
2 hrs
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
3 hrs
agree ormiston
7 hrs
agree AllegroTrans
10 hrs
agree Yvonne Gallagher
2 days 14 mins
agree Philippe Barré
2 days 1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "You're right that this could be translated a million different ways, but your suggestion was my favourite. Thanks!"
-1
5 mins

accuracy

"Quality of Red wine: 93.43% accuracy"

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" Wei D.M., Zhang Y.F., Zhang Y.L. Determination of wine accuracy by colorimetric method. Food Ind. 2001;4:45–46. [Google Scholar]"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4774381/
Reference:

https://www.kaggle.com/code/alagappan2895/quality-of-red-wine-93-43-accuracy/notebook

Peer comment(s):
disagree AllegroTrans : this makes no sense as a tasting moniker
13 hrs
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+3
9 mins

authenticity

It's surely one of those words that - in tasting notes in particular - could be translated a thousand ways.

'Authenticity' might be one of them.

Authenticity is even the name of a Californian Syrah-based wine (which might not be a reason for using the word, but just so's you know).

"Every wine region in the world has its own terroir that gives its bottles authenticity"

Discussion of the word here: https://www.winespectator.com/articles/its-all-about-authent...
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : Basically any complementary adjective would do here
5 hrs
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
7 hrs
agree AllegroTrans : This works but I disagree with Phil
13 hrs
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1 hr

high quality

https://www.jjbuckley.com/wine-knowledge/blog/the-4-factors-...

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The above link also has a section devoted to wine that is characterized by "balance".
Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : I very much doubt whether it's any higher than medium
12 hrs
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+2
6 hrs

honest

The wine is nothing fancy, but it does what it tries to do very well.

"it's an honest wine"
Peer comment(s):
agree AllegroTrans
6 hrs
Thanks Chris! Modest, unassuming, unflashy maybe too, but the chosen answer was rightfully selected methinks.
agree Jennifer White : yes, have heard this in connection with wine." What is an HONEST Wine? Great wine is honest wine. A true expression of what the land, the growing season and the climate has to offer." etc.
17 hrs
Thanks Jennifer!
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Reference comments

13 hrs
Reference:

Good idea to look at synonyms

synonymes

exactitude, convenance, correction, précision, propriété
bien-fondé, correction, raison, vérité
authenticité, exactitude, objectivité, précision, rectitude, véracité, vérité
perspicacité, finesse, lucidité

Synonymes de justesse

acuité
authenticité
bien-fondé
concision
conformité
convenance
correction
exactitude
fidélité
finesse
harmonie
impartialité
justice
logique
netteté
objectivité
opportunité
pertinence
précision
proportion
propriété
régularité
raison
rectitude
rigueur
sûreté
sincérité
vérité
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