Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

méthode prospective d'allocation des valeurs nettes comptables par composant

English translation:

actuarial projection method for (prospective) allocation of componentized net book values

Added to glossary by Adrian MM.
Apr 8, 2020 23:56
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French term

méthode prospective d'allocation des valeurs nettes comptables par composant

French to English Bus/Financial Accounting Immobilisations corporelles
From the "Immobilisations corporelles" (Tangible fixed assets) section of an audit of annual accounts for a French company.

"Dans le cadre de l'application des normes CRC concernant les actifs, avec date d'application au 1er janvier 2005, l'option retenue est la méthode prospective d'allocation des valeurs nettes comptables par composant."

I have the individual terms - I think - but not sure how to put them all together and translate the preposition "par" here.
méthode prospective = prospective method
allocation = allocation (cf. IFRS?)
valeurs nettes comptables = net book values
composant = component

Is this referring to "componentization"?
Into U.S. English.
Change log

Apr 17, 2020 20:48: Adrian MM. Created KOG entry

Discussion

Thomas Miles Apr 9, 2020:
par can sometimes be translated as 'for each' if you do not wish to suggest the following noun has an instrumental function

Proposed translations

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actuarial (forward) projection method for allocation of componentized net book values

Prospective valuation (IATE) doesn't chime with allocation. I agree that componentized is neater American-speak for per component or per item.

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Note added at 1 day 8 hrs (2020-04-10 08:32:10 GMT)
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As there seems to be a mental block about this answer, let's take an example:

depreciation may be charged 'prospectively' to items ('components') of office or industrial plant, machinery & equipment worth $ 10,000 on a writing-down allowance of, say, 10% a year. After 10 years the asset is worth nothing. If scrapped at a loss, it goes down in the accounts as a liability.

If sold at a profit (with a balancing allowance possibly subject to capital gain tax in the UK vs. a balancing charge of dep./ loss) the actuarial projection method would - prospectively again - keep the book value on the assets side of the bal. sheet.

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I wasn't getting at you, Josh, but at the usual stonewallers, including a qualified accountant (!) and (accounts-unqualified) tactical voters for the first answer.

Prospective method IMO is ambiguous for either a forward-looking or a tentatively usable method, whilst prospective-valuation method *for* allocation may indeed work better than a 'prospective valuation for allocation' when such valuation may not be carried out exclusively for such purpose e.g. of calculating the depreciation.
Example sentence:

The use of probabilities to determine the statistical expected value of each future cash flow. This is the key differentiator. Simply put, the actuary will project forward-

IAS: The rationale of componentisation is simple: the various elements or components of PPE assets do not have identical useful lives. They may wear out or depreciate at different rates, and some may have a higher risk of impairment or obsolescence than o

Note from asker:
Hi, Adrian. I wasn't ignoring your answer; I spent yesterday working on the rest of the document before coming back to this. Thank you for your input and explanations. What I don't get is why prospective valuation (depreciation?) doesn't chime with allocation...? "Prospective method" seems established, but I think "projection" works too. I have "prospective method for allocation of componentized net book values".
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the prospective method of allocating net book values ​​by component

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Peer comment(s):

neutral Francois Boye : What does it mean?
1 hr
agree philgoddard : I'm not sure what prospective means, but this is how I'd translate it.
2 hrs
agree Catherine Earle : agree
21 hrs
agree Chris Pr
1 day 11 hrs
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