Mar 15, 2020 07:59
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Russian term
Russian Federation
освоение
Russian to English
Tech/Engineering
Energy / Power Generation
spectrometric analysis
Контекст: "Начальный период освоения эксплуатационным персоналом функционально-технологического узла или функционально-технологической зоны на этапах индивидуальных испытаний и поузловой наладки."
"обобщение опыта освоения оборудования и применяемой технологии".
"Решение о готовности функционально-технологических узлов и (или) функционально-технологических зон к дальнейшему освоению оборудования пускового комплекса..."
Что-то никак не подберу подходящий термин доя этого "освоения". Mastering? Harnessing?
"обобщение опыта освоения оборудования и применяемой технологии".
"Решение о готовности функционально-технологических узлов и (или) функционально-технологических зон к дальнейшему освоению оборудования пускового комплекса..."
Что-то никак не подберу подходящий термин доя этого "освоения". Mastering? Harnessing?
Proposed translations
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References
| uptake of ... |
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
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here - commissioning
Initial commissioning stage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_commissioning
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освоение here has absolutely nothing to do with mastering, learning or familiarization. In a way, it's the same meaning as in "oil field development" - real work, step by step, to put things in operation. or oсвоение бюджета - real, actual spending.
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All activities during commissioning are a part of it:-) For some reason, it's an established mindset among Russian colleagues that "commissioning" is but a final step, signing off and breaking the champagne. Wiki explains it in detail.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_commissioning
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освоение here has absolutely nothing to do with mastering, learning or familiarization. In a way, it's the same meaning as in "oil field development" - real work, step by step, to put things in operation. or oсвоение бюджета - real, actual spending.
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All activities during commissioning are a part of it:-) For some reason, it's an established mindset among Russian colleagues that "commissioning" is but a final step, signing off and breaking the champagne. Wiki explains it in detail.
Note from asker:
| Thank you, but it's considered as activity(ies) during commissioning, not part of it. |
| Irina, I definitely agree with you. I'm afraid it's the problem with 'techical Russian' which is somewhat redundant describing various processes. But since I need to distinguish this activity in the course of commissioning I cannot use 'commissioning during commissioning'. BS EN 62337 'Commissioning of electrical, instrumentation and control systems' is twice as small compared with the Russian standard I am doomed to translate. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
39 mins
David Knowles
Native in English
Specialist in Civil Law & Contracts
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, English, Ukrainian to English
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20
adoption
incorporation, assimilation, adoption, mastery, ...
The first phrase might be "The initial adoption" - omit "period"
The first phrase might be "The initial adoption" - omit "period"
40 mins
Viacheslav Silkin
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Works in field
Russian Federation
Business & legal translator since 1990
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English
adaptation (of new equipment/technologies)
proposition
1 hr
hands-on activities/experience
as an option
3 hrs
Irina Solodova
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Russian Federation
Practice makes perfect.
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Russian, and 1 more.
implementation / introduction
Возможно, подойдут слова implementation, introduction как "ввод в эксплуатацию"
+1
5 hrs
Pavel Altukhov
Native in Russian
Works in field
Top quality, reliability
Native in: Russian
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, French to Russian, and 6 more.
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4
три разных термина
Разный смысл "освоения" в этих предложениях:
В первом случае: Initial acquisition of skills required to operate..
Во втором предложении: (обобщение) : embracing of new equipment..
В третьем предложении (Решение): further adoption/introduction..
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В третьем предложении даже скорее integration
В первом случае: Initial acquisition of skills required to operate..
Во втором предложении: (обобщение) : embracing of new equipment..
В третьем предложении (Решение): further adoption/introduction..
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В третьем предложении даже скорее integration
2 hrs
Michael Korovkin
Italy
Italy
Native in Russian
&
English
Works in field
Italy
Native in: English 
, Russian
Works in: Russian to English, English to Russian, Italian to Russian, and 2 more.
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12
familiarization
... in my experience, that's what's used in such cases, the oftenest.
"getting to know" or "acquiring operating skills of" can be used too, but it's just a longer way to say basically the same thing.
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See what you mean.
"Phasing in", however, may be read simply as "step-by-step commissioning", which, I understand you seek to avoid.
Can it be something more colloquial, like, say, "getting the ropes of...", "getting the command of..." ?
"getting to know" or "acquiring operating skills of" can be used too, but it's just a longer way to say basically the same thing.
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See what you mean.
"Phasing in", however, may be read simply as "step-by-step commissioning", which, I understand you seek to avoid.
Can it be something more colloquial, like, say, "getting the ropes of...", "getting the command of..." ?
Note from asker:
| Well, in some caes, yes. But in this context it rather refers to step-by-step putting into operation of equipment as part of pre-commissioning/commissioning activities after mechanical completion. |
Reference comments
4 hrs
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
Kyrgyzstan
Kyrgyzstan
Specializes in field
Kyrgyzstan
Education, Legal, Technical & Medical
Native in: Uzbek (Variants: Tashkent, Ferghana valley, Samarkand-Bukhara, Khorezm) , Kirghiz
Works in: English to Uzbek, English to Kirghiz, English to Kazakh, and 26 more.
Related KudoZ points
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20
Reference:
uptake of ...
Здесь речь об освоении в смысле mastering or uptake of a new technology or equipment
I would say so
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Да, Вы правы, здесь есть поэтапность, но как мне кажестя между терминами "освоение " и "поэтапное внедрение" есть оттенки, думаю в контексте четко указана поэтапность:
* на этапах индивидуальных испытаний и поузловой наладки*
ИМХО поэтапность будет лишним, просто мое мнение.
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A person's uptake of something is the amount of it that they use. [TECHNICAL] Collins Cobuild Advanced Learner’s English Dictionary. New Digital Edition 2008 © HarperCollins Publishers 2008
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uptake освоение; внедрение (напр. новой техники) The English-Russian Dictionary of Mechanical Engineering and Industrial Automation. © RUSSO, 2003
I would say so
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Да, Вы правы, здесь есть поэтапность, но как мне кажестя между терминами "освоение " и "поэтапное внедрение" есть оттенки, думаю в контексте четко указана поэтапность:
* на этапах индивидуальных испытаний и поузловой наладки*
ИМХО поэтапность будет лишним, просто мое мнение.
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Note added at 18 hrs (2020-03-16 02:34:13 GMT)
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A person's uptake of something is the amount of it that they use. [TECHNICAL] Collins Cobuild Advanced Learner’s English Dictionary. New Digital Edition 2008 © HarperCollins Publishers 2008
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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-03-16 03:01:23 GMT)
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uptake освоение; внедрение (напр. новой техники) The English-Russian Dictionary of Mechanical Engineering and Industrial Automation. © RUSSO, 2003
Note from asker:
| Спасибо, еще один полезный термин. Пожалуй, или uptake или phasing in. Второй, мне кажется, более подчеркивает поэтапность процесса. |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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The Misha
: "Uptake of a new technology" makes no sense in English whatsoever. Uptake, пардон, куда?
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Eh, The Misha, The Misha! Thank you for your hard work. There are many answers, but you suddenly and by accident found my ref. answer from the list as usual. That's good. How would you translate "Karavan idet i idet"?
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