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Jul 29, 2016 06:39
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Russian term

поступил в ГВК

Russian to English Medical Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-) quality control
From a Quality Overall Summary document, a table describing the substances used for quality control:
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Штамм вируса везикулярного стоматита (VSV), выделен в США, штат Индиана, поступил в ГВК в 1964 г. из АТСС.
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Proposed translations (English)
4 was deposited at the State Virus Collection (of the Russian Federation)
4 it was added to the State Virus Registry , entered
4 -1 recorded in Russian Federation's virus database

Discussion

Artyom Timeyev (asker) Jul 30, 2016:
The source author uses Soviet term
"GVK" for lack of other word but talking about an American medical organization.
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I believe that the source author means that the US-based organization ATCC handed over a viral sample to the Soviet-based organization. Cold War notwithstanding, there was crossborder scientific cooperation.
Emil Niculescu Jul 29, 2016:
To Cherepanov:

I must admit the source text is problematic. The source author uses Soviet term
"GVK" for lack of other word but talking about an American medical organization. It's confusing to me. I think the source is referring to a state-level ATCC. There is no State Virus Collection I could find in my brief search.
Emil Niculescu Jul 29, 2016:
Whatever the CDC is, it's definitely not GVK. In a later post I corrected myself and said the CDC and GVK are not the same. However, I take issue with your "State Virus Collection of the Russian Federation." Can you please provide a link to an American organization called the State Virus Collection? And why of the Russian Federation? I must confess I was wrong about this myself when I re-read the Russian original. Apparently it has to do with an US-based "GVK" (for lack of better word).
cherepanov Jul 29, 2016:
Let me translate the Russian text of the question: The strain of vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) was isolated in the USA, Indiana state, deposited into the State Collection of Viruses in 1964. You might see from this, that this has to do with 'the strain' (a variety of bacterium or fungus, esp one used for a culture - Collins dictionary), not paper or electronic information carrier.
cherepanov Jul 29, 2016:
Sorry for misspelling your family name. Let me quote your explanation:...The closest US equivalent to GVK is called the CDC...
Emil Niculescu Jul 29, 2016:
It's Niculescu, not Negulescu. Second point: Your definition of CDC is reductive. I would not say they "exclusively" deal with information. Here's what Wiki says about CDC: "The CDC focuses national attention on developing and applying disease control and prevention." Also: http://www.cdc.gov/about/organization/mission.htm. But this is irrelevant because I never said CDC is like GVK.
cherepanov Jul 29, 2016:
To Emil Negulescu CDC is a regulatory institution dealing exclusively with information about, e.g., serious adverse events (SAE) during clinical studies of new investigational pharmaceutical preparations. It has a power to stop any clinical trial should the severity of SAE exceeds appropriate level. Russian GVK is not an equivalent of CDC, but that of American ATCC, which is a cellular bank, not a regulatory institution.
cherepanov Jul 29, 2016:
About the nature of the collection This is not a paper or electronic database. ATCC (American Type Culture Collection) sells different microorganisms to the customers, to the Russian State collection of viruses in this case.
https://www.atcc.org/~/media/PDFs/virus1.ashx
ATCC established the Virology Collection in 1958 to support research and development in .... ATCC. Tissue culture-adapted influenza viruses are also available.

Proposed translations

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was deposited at the State Virus Collection (of the Russian Federation)

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18450104
by DK L'vov - ‎2008 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articles
[Epizooty caused by high-virulent influenza virus A/H5N1 of genotype 2.2 ... The strains were deposited at the State Virus Collection of the Russian Federation ...

https://books.google.ca/books?isbn=0128018445
Dimitry Konstantinovich Lvov, ‎Mikhail Yurievich Shchelkanov, ‎Sergey Vladimirovich Alkhovsky - 2015 - ‎Science
[in Russian]. Fadeeva LL, Deryabin PG, Khaletskaya EV, et al. Catalogue of strains deposited and stored in the Russian State collection of viruses (SCV) ...

bankpatentov.ru › Каталог › Изобретения › A › A61 › A61K
10 июн. 2006 г. - Штамм культивируется в культуре клеток печени эмбрионов кур, ... депонирован в Государственной коллекции вирусов ГВК №2358

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Note added at 30 mins (2016-07-29 07:09:37 GMT)
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Можно вместо 'deposited' перевести 'obtained' как здесь:
link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-1-4757-4622-8_10.pdf
(obtained from АТСС, Rockville, MD). Procedure...

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Note added at 34 mins (2016-07-29 07:14:11 GMT)
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'obtained from':
www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13102818.1990.10818623
by V Nikolaeva - ‎1990 - ‎Related articles
Dye and Wilkie) was obtained from the АТСС.
Peer comment(s):
neutral LilianNekipelov : it sounds very unnatural.
8 mins
Thank you. Choose your own verb
agree Vera Klink : deposited *into* the State Virus Collection
55 mins
Thank you!
disagree Emil Niculescu : I agree with Lilian that State Virus sounds funny to a native speaker.
9 hrs
Thank you. Then there is another option mentioned: Russian State collection of viruses
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you!"
34 mins

it was added to the State Virus Registry , entered

either one
Peer comment(s):
neutral cherepanov : 'Registry' does for paper or electronic stuff whereas this has to do with biological entities
5 mins
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10 hrs

recorded in Russian Federation's virus database

The closest US equivalent to GVK is called the CDC (Central for Disease Control) and its Disease database: http://www.cdc.gov/bam/diseases/immune/disease_database.html... They don't have a virus database per se, so I added to "virus."

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Note added at 11 hrs (2016-07-29 17:42:48 GMT)
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You are right, these were the USSR days. For your second point, yes, maybe they were kept in lab tubes but they were definitely recorded via print files so that would still be a database in our computer-age context. Any virus description would be kept in some kind of database. As I noted above, "database" is not a term I invented. It appears on the CDC's website, which is the US gov't agency that tracks diseases. It's not the GVK, I fully agree. There can be no perfect match between terms since we are talking about different gov't agencies, forms of gov't, etc.

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Note added at 11 hrs (2016-07-29 17:53:06 GMT)
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I realize I made an error. This cannot refer to a Russian Federation since this is an American GVK, part of ATSS. Therefore, it must be some kind of Virology Collection, as it appears here in the first paragraph. "Deposited/recorded in the national virology collection."

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Note added at 11 hrs (2016-07-29 17:54:02 GMT)
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Sorry again. I mean ATCC
Note from asker:
Thank you, Emil. In 1964 there was no Russian Federation yet. It's a minor issue though. Is "database" appropriate, or were viruses really submitted in lab tubes, I wonder. I'll read up on that. Back in 1964, there was little to submit about a virus in paper form, thus maybe they really exchanged samples?
Peer comment(s):
disagree cherepanov : 'database' is hardly appropriate as this is not computer viruses but a bank of living organisms: www.biology-resources.com/biology-questions.html Test 9: Living organisms · Interactive questions. Test 10: Viruses, bacteria and fungi
31 mins
I fully understand this are not computer viruses. That's why I mentioned the CDC (see my note). By the way, I made an error, just realized. The source is actually talking about an American GVK. I forgot about the ATSS. My apologies.
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