Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Nov 21, 2014 11:24
9 yrs ago
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German term
Speisenfolge
German to English
Other
Cooking / Culinary
aus dem Zeugnis eines Kochs, Lehrfach
wer kann außer "sequence of dishes" noch was bringen?
wer kann außer "sequence of dishes" noch was bringen?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | menu planning |
philgoddard
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| 3 +8 | menu |
Yorkshireman
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| 4 +5 | Order of courses |
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
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| 3 +1 | coordination of dishes |
Michael Martin, MA
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| 4 -1 | Menu progression |
Kelly Burt
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References
| Speisenfolge |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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Proposed translations
+4
4 hrs
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Selected
menu planning
I don't think you'd just see the word "menu" as the title of a course module.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Johanna Timm, PhD
: see reference below- I think this describes best what "Speisenfolge" encompasses in the context of culinary training
2 hrs
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| agree |
Armorel Young
3 hrs
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| agree |
Ramey Rieger (X)
: Since it's my suggestion, I guess I have to agree.
20 hrs
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| agree |
SuzukiBandit
2 days 21 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "trifft es sehr gut"
+5
7 mins
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
Creative and conscientious
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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22
Order of courses
I have seen this used a lot - especially in multi-course menus (5,6,7 courses or more)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Kelly Burt
1 min
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| agree |
Silke Walter
: Stimme zu, wobei "menu" ggf. auch ginge.
4 mins
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| agree |
BrigitteHilgner
1 hr
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| agree |
Donald Jacobson
3 hrs
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| agree |
gangels (X)
1 day 7 hrs
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-1
7 mins
Kelly Burt
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
ATA-certified DE/SV>EN Translator
Native in: English (Variants: Australian, US) 
Works in: German to English, Swedish to English
Menu progression
Perhaps, or menu sequence might be an option as well.
+1
1 hr
Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) , English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
coordination of dishes
...might be what we're looking for. See link below:
"Multi tasking is importance of practical exam in one day. Time management, coordination of dishes, putting the whole menu together is the main focus. Elements can be flexible as long as blocks are covered in the whole program. 5 hour timeframe works for most students."
http://www.bccat.ca/pubs/Professional Cook Training AC Minut...
"Multi tasking is importance of practical exam in one day. Time management, coordination of dishes, putting the whole menu together is the main focus. Elements can be flexible as long as blocks are covered in the whole program. 5 hour timeframe works for most students."
http://www.bccat.ca/pubs/Professional Cook Training AC Minut...
+8
8 mins
menu
I think this is probably the easiest and most appropriate translation.
You could, of course, also use "courses"
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Note added at 9 mins (2014-11-21 11:34:07 GMT)
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I don't think that order or sequence needs to be used, as a menu is gives precisely the order of serving.
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Note added at 15 mins (2014-11-21 11:40:18 GMT)
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The trainee chef will probably have been requested to make a menu for a specified occasion - consisting of a starter (possibly also an amuse gueule), soup, main dish + sides + salad (or fish dish and meat dish + sides + salad), a dessert and possibly also something like a cheeseboard to finish.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:26:59 GMT)
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Very informative reference document:
http://www.cityandguilds.com/qualifications-and-apprenticesh...
The term menu is used throughout - for preparation, planning & policy, costing based on ingredients, compilation with healthy foods, varied menus and outdoor catering, menu production requirements, menu structures and loads more.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:28:35 GMT)
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Sorry, the link takes you only halfway there - I hope this one works
http://tinyurl.com/18r
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:29:56 GMT)
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Another attempt:
http://cdn.cityandguilds.com/ProductDocuments/Hospitality_an...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:30:27 GMT)
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Tested it - it works!!!
You could, of course, also use "courses"
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Note added at 9 mins (2014-11-21 11:34:07 GMT)
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I don't think that order or sequence needs to be used, as a menu is gives precisely the order of serving.
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Note added at 15 mins (2014-11-21 11:40:18 GMT)
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The trainee chef will probably have been requested to make a menu for a specified occasion - consisting of a starter (possibly also an amuse gueule), soup, main dish + sides + salad (or fish dish and meat dish + sides + salad), a dessert and possibly also something like a cheeseboard to finish.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:26:59 GMT)
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Very informative reference document:
http://www.cityandguilds.com/qualifications-and-apprenticesh...
The term menu is used throughout - for preparation, planning & policy, costing based on ingredients, compilation with healthy foods, varied menus and outdoor catering, menu production requirements, menu structures and loads more.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:28:35 GMT)
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Sorry, the link takes you only halfway there - I hope this one works
http://tinyurl.com/18r
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:29:56 GMT)
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Another attempt:
http://cdn.cityandguilds.com/ProductDocuments/Hospitality_an...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:30:27 GMT)
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Tested it - it works!!!
Peer comment(s):
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franglish
6 mins
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Merci!
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seehand
1 hr
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Danke!
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Edith Kelly
2 hrs
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Hi Edith, THX
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Lonnie Legg
: if what is meant (context!!) is the "Abstimmung" of the discrete dishes composing a meal is meant.
2 hrs
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THX
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Sanni Kruger (X)
: In my book is a "Speisenfolge" a "menu".
2 hrs
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Good book! :-)
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SuzukiBandit
3 hrs
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Thanks
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Susanne Schiewe
4 hrs
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Thank you, Susanne
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Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
6 hrs
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Danke!
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Ramey Rieger (X)
: In a testimonial or certificate, this doesn't work as an achievement or a course absolved. Sorry, my friend!// Hmmm, in my humble opinion, it's still a stretch. Have a good weekend!
23 hrs
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It does in combination with the stuff in my references - and as a plural, menus// Ebenso, Schreddern und Blätter kompostieren ist angesagt.
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Reference comments
6 hrs
Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Canada
Native in German
Canada
Friendly, fast & certified!
Native in: German (Variants: Austrian, Germany, Swiss, Platt / Nieder (Low German))
Works in: English to German, German to English, German
Related KudoZ points
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41
Reference:
Speisenfolge
Lernfeld 3.3
Koch/Köchin 3. Ausbildungsjahr
Speisenfolge
Zeitrichtwert: 60 Stunden
Die Schülerinnen und Schüler können aus einem Warenkorb eine Speisenfolge erstellen. Sie wenden Menüregeln an und beachten ökonomische Gesichtspunkte. Sie planen den Arbeitsablauf zur Zubereitung der Speisenfolge. Sie erstellen Menüs für unterschiedliche Anlässe und können korrespondierende Getränke vorschlagen. Sie gestalten Menükarten. Die Schülerinnen und Schüler wirken bei der Gästeberatung mit; dies erfolgt auch in der Fremdsprache.Sie führen Berechnungen durch.
Inhalte:
− Menüregeln
− Planung, Gestaltung und Kontrolle von Arbeitsabläufen
− Korrespondierende Getränke
− Rechtsvorschriften
− Berechnungen (Rezepturen, Mengen, Kosten, Erträge)
− Fachsprache
− Fremdsprache
− EDV
http://kochklub-hamburg.de/downloads/documents/pdf/KMK_Rahme...
Koch/Köchin 3. Ausbildungsjahr
Speisenfolge
Zeitrichtwert: 60 Stunden
Die Schülerinnen und Schüler können aus einem Warenkorb eine Speisenfolge erstellen. Sie wenden Menüregeln an und beachten ökonomische Gesichtspunkte. Sie planen den Arbeitsablauf zur Zubereitung der Speisenfolge. Sie erstellen Menüs für unterschiedliche Anlässe und können korrespondierende Getränke vorschlagen. Sie gestalten Menükarten. Die Schülerinnen und Schüler wirken bei der Gästeberatung mit; dies erfolgt auch in der Fremdsprache.Sie führen Berechnungen durch.
Inhalte:
− Menüregeln
− Planung, Gestaltung und Kontrolle von Arbeitsabläufen
− Korrespondierende Getränke
− Rechtsvorschriften
− Berechnungen (Rezepturen, Mengen, Kosten, Erträge)
− Fachsprache
− Fremdsprache
− EDV
http://kochklub-hamburg.de/downloads/documents/pdf/KMK_Rahme...
Note from asker:
| vielen Dank für die Informationen |
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