English term
Canada
Canadian French Translator 17+ exp.
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Spanish to French, French, and 3 more.
backwater
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kashew
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Sheila Wilson
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Aug 22, 2012 08:44: Kévin Bernier changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
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PRO (3): FX Fraipont (X), Tristan Jimenez, Kévin Bernier
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Proposed translations
United Kingdom
Efficiency and finesse
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, Russian to French, Latin to French, and 3 more.
au fin fond de
"au fin fond d'une banlieue de Cardiff."
Sinon, "coin perdu de Cardiff" permet d'exprimer l'aspect "reculé" sans impliquer qu'il s'agit d'un village, comme le ferait "trou".
New Zealand
Committed to the Customer
Native in: English (Variant: New Zealand)
Works in: French to English, German to English, Spanish to English
trou perdu
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FX Fraipont (X)
: http://dicmortimer.wordpress.com/2011/10/ 27 Oct 2011 – " Cardiff ..... as the capital of a disparaged backwater where music-biz Svengalis never ..... and gave birth to the deadly-dull suburban sprawl of North Cardiff"
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Tony M
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Daryo
: A "suburban sprawl" (i.e. near a town) is hardly a "trou perdu", a small village lost in the middle of nowhere. "Backwater" here is more used for the absence of anything exciting happening; from this sample I can't detect any pejorative tone
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Sandra Mouton
: Oui pour "perdu" mais non pour "trou" qui évoque directement un village en rase campagne
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Jocelyne Cuenin
: pour moi, trou perdu ne marche pas pour la banlieue
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Pascal ROY
: I think Petitqvoine is right
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France
It's all about the context
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, French to English, French
village tranquille
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Daryo
: "the five storey block of flats in a nest of other similar blocks" = "village tranquille"? more like a "bloc de HLM", although not necessarily meant in a pejorative way, I agree on that.
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Tony M
: Since Cardiff is a big city, the description here is unlikely to be of a 'village', esp. as Daryo says, with these blocks of flats.
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AllegroTrans
: This is about a dingy part of a city, certainly not a tranquil village, your dictionary evidently cannot deal with this....but then dicos are for "guidance only"
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France
Translator & Game Loc Specialist | EN-FR
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French
Province reculée
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Sandra Mouton
: "Province", pour moi, fait référence à une région entière loin de la capitale d'un pays. Ici, on ne peut pas parler de région et Cardiff est la capitale du Pays de Galles/On ne peut pas parler de région entière pour un quartier d'une capitale.
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En Anglais, oui. En Français non. C'est très commun de dire "province" simplement pour désigner une région, qu'elle soit à la campagne ou pas.
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Native in: English 
, French
Works in: English to French, French to English, German to French, and 4 more.
hors des sentiers battus
quartier déshérité
Reference comments
Another slant:
imperialoil.com
Malgré l'essor de celle-ci, la côte est demeurée un petit coin tranquille réservé à la classe ouvrière, un refuge abordable pour les artistes et les retraités et un terrain de jeux ceux qui aiment la nature sauvage.
imperialoil.com
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Note added at 10 heures (2012-08-22 12:08:32 GMT)
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And a definition: A place or situation regarded as isolated, stagnant, or backward
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Note added at 10 heures (2012-08-22 12:25:39 GMT)
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http://dicmortimer.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/three-rivers/
interesting background
Spain
20 years producing 100% natural English
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: English, French to English
Urban backwater
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2194&dat=19490513&id=w...
using such words as:
quiet
dull as ditchwater
cursed with respectability
I don't think it's necessarily a deprived area, although youngsters living in these areas often feel deprived. It's just so boring, forgotten. Like the backwater of a river, it never sees mainstream life, there's nothing new, nothing exciting - just more of the same.
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