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Jul 23, 2012 11:30
11 yrs ago
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Italian term

antipasti misti di mare e terra

Italian to English Other Cooking / Culinary Menu ristorante
Si tratta del menu di un ristorante
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 surf and turf appetisers (or appetizers)
5 +4 antipasti misti di mare e terra
4 +1 surf-and-turf antipasti
4 <*: mixed sea-food – earth-food starter/appetiser; *>: sea & earth hors d'oeuvre melange
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Discussion

Tom in London Jul 23, 2012:
Revolting concept! I will avoid eating at Munich airport. Trendy decor or not.
Colin Rowe Jul 23, 2012:
From the Munich Airport website: Surf & Turf: the creative dining concept, with a menu based on the winning combination of "simple, honest and healthy food", and with trendy decor themed on summer, sun, beach holidays, and surfing – a delight for steak and seafood fans.

http://www.munich-airport.de/en/consumer/shops/news/0088surf...

http://www.munich-airport.de/de/consumer/shops/news/0088surf...

i.e. not necessarily vegetables, but "land-based" food, as opposed to seafood.
Judith McLean Jul 23, 2012:
Phil, although I completely accept that 'surf and turf' may not sound great to some people and may not be appropriate in this case, I think it is technically correct. Terra implies anything from the land rather than the sea and therefore includes animals living on land as well as veg. Anyway, it's not a direct translation but just a bit of chefy jargon which means the same thing.
philgoddard Jul 23, 2012:
Doesn't "terra" imply vegetables? If so, "surf and turf" would be incorrect.
BrigitteHilgner Jul 23, 2012:
Why not call it mixed antipasti or antipasti misti?

Proposed translations

+6
11 mins
Selected

surf and turf appetisers (or appetizers)

The fashionable term nowadays. May not be to everyone's taste from a language point of view, but it's just a suggestion. If it's specifically an Italian menu I'd keep antipasti in Italian
Reference:

http://www.lhj.com/recipes/easy/appetizers/surf-and-turf-appetizers/

Peer comment(s):
agree Simon Lewis : BEat me! Suggest antipasti left as-is
3 mins
neutral Tom in London : "surf and turf" sounds horrible but good enough, if the translation is for am American market. It totally fails to capture the finesse I would expect to see and taste, if eating this dish
23 mins
I agree it completely depends on the context. No idea what type of establishment it is, but a lot of top UK chefs use this term so I wouldn't say it's just American.
agree Pernigotti Translations : agree
2 hrs
neutral philgoddard : I agree with Tom.
2 hrs
agree Colin Rowe : While I prefer the idea of leaving the Italian unmolested, depending on the "level of the joint" as Michael Korovkin puts it, this is certainly a valid option for a less "posh" eatery (see Discussion).
3 hrs
agree Yvonne Gallagher : surf and turf antipasti very common in all levels of eatery. TV programme here at moment with that title and 2 top chefs!http://www.rte.ie/tv/surfnturf/
9 hrs
agree Shera Lyn Parpia
22 hrs
agree Susy Sinigag (X)
3 days 2 hrs
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+1
13 mins

surf-and-turf antipasti

Surf-and-turf is quite common when talking about mixed seafood/meat dishes, antipasti is commonly used in English as-is for an Italian hors d'oeuvre (appetizer)
Peer comment(s):
agree Yvonne Gallagher : yes, absolutely agree
9 hrs
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+4
37 mins

antipasti misti di mare e terra

That's right: exactly as it is in the Italian. Most gastronomes would prefer it, and the average, moderately sophisticated diner with even a superficial understanding of Italian would appreciate it a great deal more than the truly horrible "surf and turf" which would make be absolutely NOT want to eat it, or even to see it !

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Note added at 37 mins (2012-07-23 12:07:41 GMT)
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typo :

make be = make me
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : Hope your cold gets better soon.
2 hrs
I haven't got a cold, Phil. ???
agree Colin Rowe : Depending on the nature of the restaurant, this certainly sounds a little more "up-market"
2 hrs
agree Yvonne Gallagher : yes, if it's up-market
9 hrs
agree Juliet Halewood (X)
19 hrs
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11 mins

<*: mixed sea-food – earth-food starter/appetiser; *>: sea & earth hors d'oeuvre melange

... depends on the level of the joint :)

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Note added at 3 hrs (2012-07-23 15:19:28 GMT)
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In somma, all depends on whether or not you want to translate it at all.
Today's pseudo-sophistication in all Anglo-Saxon areas of the world, transliterates lots of Italian. Recently, I heard "I've just returned from Roma"... not to speak about "zabaglione" and "bologna sausage" – with both g's pronounced.
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