Jan 10, 2010 19:30
14 yrs ago
Russian term
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с номинальной свободой принятия решений
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Education / Pedagogy
"Nominal" doesn't seem it works here, because the sentence is contrasting the authority supposedly granted with its being only a formality...
Наделение школ статусом юридического лица с номинальной свободой принятия решений является лишь формальностью, в то время как реальным центром принятия решений является соответствующий орган субъекта РФ в сфере образования и его районные подразделения (РОНО).
Наделение школ статусом юридического лица с номинальной свободой принятия решений является лишь формальностью, в то время как реальным центром принятия решений является соответствующий орган субъекта РФ в сфере образования и его районные подразделения (РОНО).
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with nominal freedom to make decisions
Translation:
Granting schools the status of legal entity with nominal freedom to make decisions is only a formality...
nominal: "relating to a designated or theoretical size that may vary from the actual"
Reference: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nominal
Example:
"When we talk about freedom, there's "nominal freedom" as well as "effective freedom". I believe China lacks nominal freedom, yet has ample "effective freedom"."
Reference: http://www.chinalyst.net/node/13180
Granting schools the status of legal entity with nominal freedom to make decisions is only a formality...
nominal: "relating to a designated or theoretical size that may vary from the actual"
Reference: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nominal
Example:
"When we talk about freedom, there's "nominal freedom" as well as "effective freedom". I believe China lacks nominal freedom, yet has ample "effective freedom"."
Reference: http://www.chinalyst.net/node/13180
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Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
4 mins
Angela Greenfield
United States
United States
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United States
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, Ukrainian
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token/symbolic freedom of decision
IMHO
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svetlana cosquéric
France
France
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France
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16
nominal freedom of decision-making
nominal freedom to participate in decision-making
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Dmitriy Chernyshov
Russian Federation
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which are free ON PAPER to make their own decisions
which ON PAPER have the freedom to make (their own) decisions, etc
1 hr
Judith Hehir
United States
United States
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40
"freedom to make decisions'/"right of decisionmaking"
Quotation marks will convey the notion that it is a nominal freedom or nominal right.
+1
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Rachel Douglas
United States
United States
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Works in: Russian to English
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76
which formally have the right to make decisions
I don't see why you don't like "nominal" - "Giving schools the status of legal entities with the nominal right to make decisions...", but an alternative would be "formal" - "Giving schools the status of legal entities which formally have the right to make decisions..."
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Gaak! I wasn't paying attention to the fact that "формальность" is in the same sentence already. Really, it's so wordy, you might be able to condense it:
"Defining schools as legal entities with decision-making authority is merely a formality, while..." - leaving out both "nominal" and "status" by incorporating the sense of both of them into "defining."
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Gaak! I wasn't paying attention to the fact that "формальность" is in the same sentence already. Really, it's so wordy, you might be able to condense it:
"Defining schools as legal entities with decision-making authority is merely a formality, while..." - leaving out both "nominal" and "status" by incorporating the sense of both of them into "defining."
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Alexandra Taggart
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
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&
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Russian Federation
proficient translation
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with a minimum of freedom to make decisions
Pretty much straight forward, I'm surprised, Deborah, that you hesitate/
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http://www.springerlink.com/content/r51524303326545t/
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Note added at 57 mins (2010-01-10 20:27:22 GMT)
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http://doingbusiness.ru/russian-legal-entity.html
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-01-10 21:10:48 GMT)
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Minimum of freedom=minimum of legal rights. A person, an entrprise or institution which has applied for a tax number - is a legal entity.Without being a legal entity the school does not have a right even to employ a cleaner, because only a legal entity can sign a contract. An infirmity in centralized Russian system of education on one hand and a natural urge for autonomy on the other create rediculous situations.
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Please, exclude "person", person is a "physical entity", an individual undertaker.
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Note added at 50 mins (2010-01-10 20:20:39 GMT)
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http://www.springerlink.com/content/r51524303326545t/
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Note added at 57 mins (2010-01-10 20:27:22 GMT)
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http://doingbusiness.ru/russian-legal-entity.html
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-01-10 21:10:48 GMT)
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Minimum of freedom=minimum of legal rights. A person, an entrprise or institution which has applied for a tax number - is a legal entity.Without being a legal entity the school does not have a right even to employ a cleaner, because only a legal entity can sign a contract. An infirmity in centralized Russian system of education on one hand and a natural urge for autonomy on the other create rediculous situations.
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Please, exclude "person", person is a "physical entity", an individual undertaker.
3 hrs
Michael Korovkin
Italy
Italy
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&
English
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Italy
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42
with (only) a titular decision-making power
should sound English, shouldn't it?
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