Spanish term
United Kingdom
Qualified medical translator
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Italian to English, Portuguese to English
dada la entidad de la misma
El mecanismo intimo de fallecimiento fue la fractura craneal con destrucción centros vitales, siendo accesorias el resto de la lesiones también de carácter mortal dada la entidad de la misma.
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Proposed translations
Spain
PER ASPERA AD ASTRA
Native in: Spanish
Works in: German to Spanish, Spanish to German, English to Spanish, and 5 more.
given/in view of its seriousness
Correct Spanish:
El mecanismo intimo de fallecimiento fue la fractura craneal con destrucción DE centros vitales, siendo accesorias el resto de laS lesiones también de carácter mortal dada la entidad de la misma.
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Well, the Spanish is not a masterpiece of medical drafting, I agree with you (nothing rare by the way, you just need to see the miserable grammar and the ommissions), but my understanding of the source is that the skull fracture is the first cause of death and the other injuries have a secondary relevance (this is what the report says).
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http://lema.rae.es/drae2001/srv/search?id=4tTO47LEcDXX2ShuJV...
entidad.
(Del lat. mediev. entĭtas, -tātis).
2. f. Valor o importancia de algo.
Hope it is clearer now.
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-09-09 18:36:42 GMT)
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La entidad de la misma = la entidad de la fractura craneal.
| Thanks for this, it doesn't make sense to me though, it says the also of a lesiones are of carácter fatal -does the sentence make sense to you? |
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Robert Carter
: The drafting is so poor (isn't it always in police reports?) that I can't tell which injury "la misma" relates to, but yes, "entidad" could be "seriousness" or perhaps more properly "significance." Saludos Toni!
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Thanks for your expertise, Robert, much appreciated.
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Leda Roche
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Gracias, Leda.
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Chema Nieto Castañón
: With Robert; significance, relevance...
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Thanks, Chema. Yes, I agree with relevance too.
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Muriel Vasconcellos
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Thanks, Muriel.
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Andy Watkinson
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Thanks, Andy.
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philgoddard
: As Sarah says, this doesn't make sense. It follows on from the "lesiones".
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No, it is not wrong. I shall have here the "neutral" flexibility with your wrong answer you do not show with mine.
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neilmac
: Gravity or seriousness/significance make sense to me...
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Thanks, Neil, glad to know.
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Georgina Grigioni
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Thanks, Georgina.
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United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
given their nature
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/pronunciation-s-lost...
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Yudith Madrazo
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Toni Castano
: I hardly believe that the typo you mention might have occurred here. Please see my interpretation below. // You have understood nothing.
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I believe your interpretation is wrong. It says that the other lesions were so serious that they contrIbuted to the death.
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Chema Nieto Castañón
: Hola phil, de manera algo farragosa el original dice que las otras lesiones, aunque de carácter mortal, se consideran accesorias, no determinantes en este caso, dada la relevancia de la fractura craneal, que es considerada la causa fundamental del fallec.
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given the nature of this (the fracture)
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Overall in 69.3% cases multiple bone fracture was detected. ... Fracture of the base of the skull is associated with high fatality. As the vital centres are situated in the midbrain and brain stem, if the force of impact is transmitted to the base thus causing fracture, it is likely to cause damage to the vital centres.2
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Yes, I would agree.
| Thanks Liz - would you agree with this as the translation? The main cause of death was the cranial fracture given the fatal nature of this fracture with destruction of the vital centres, the rest of the injuries are ancillary. |
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Chema Nieto Castañón
: Hi liz, it is not "given the fatal nature of this fracture" as Sarah puts it (other lesions are also fatal in this case), but "given the relevance of the skull fracture (and of the consequent lesions)" what the original tries to convey.
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i haven't said "fatal" but just "nature".
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Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
in view of the extent (scale) of the same (fracture in point)
Being a cart horse, I will not get on my medical 'high horse' - though there are many (albeit UK/ Scottish & French) doctors and surgeons in my family.
NB Chema's quote - I think he is advocating fractura for la misma - but my understanding of the same is somewhat fractured:
Entidad (DRAE)
Valor o importancia de algo. cf. l'importance in FRE also doubles as the extent or scale e.g. une blessure importante = a large-scale injury and. not as per French interviewees on Anglo-Am. TV - 'an important blessing'!
Discussion
Even though there are other lesions that by themselves would have been mortal -i.e. a massive abdominal perforation-, given the relevance/significance of the cranial fracture it is this one which is considered the fundamental cause of death in this case ("mecanismo íntimo de fallecimiento").
Entidad (DRAE)
Valor o importancia de algo.