Aug 31, 2013 19:45
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Villahermosa, Tabasco, a 22 de diciembre del 2008

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My question is rather simple, would the most used way in legal documents be
"Villahermosa, Tabasco, ON December 22, 2008", or just "Villahermosa, Tabasco, December 22, 2008"?
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Discussion

Charles Davis Aug 31, 2013:
Depends Cinnamon is dead right that we need to know whether this is a heading or part of the text. It also makes a difference, as she says, whether we're translating into American or British English, since the customary date format is different. On the latter, although December 22, 2008 (with comma) is traditionally the standard US form, 22 December 2008 (no comma), which is standard UK form, is acceptable and increasingly common in US docs, so that can safely be used as a default option.

If it's a heading, "on" should not be included. If its part of the text, you might well want to say "In Villahermosa, Tabasco, on 22 December 2008 [...]"; it depends entirely on the context (as usual).
Triston Goodwin Aug 31, 2013:
Either one I think either way is fine, I would only add the 22nd as Dariusz pointed out.

Proposed translations

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V, T, this 22nd day of December, 2008

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or: V, T, dated December 22, 2008
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V, T, on 22 December, 2008 (UK Eng)

CONTEXT: It would help to know if this a heading or under the signature at the end of the document, or part of a sentence...

US Eng: V, T, on December 22, 2008

Using "22nd" is correct in both UK/US English, but less common. Other forms, such as the one Dariusz suggested, are correct but there is a tendency to try to reduce the more "florid" aspects of legalise.

19.20 Directory of European Union legislation in force
eur-lex.europa.eu › EUR-Lex Home › Legislation in force‎
Convention on jurisdiction, applicable law, recognition, enforcement and ... on the service of judicial and extrajudicial documents in civil or commercial matters .... 2009/26/EC: Commission Decision of 22 December 2008 on the request from .... of judgments in civil and commercial matters - ***signed in Luxembourg on 3 June*** ...

Pembroke Power Station complaint - Friends of the Earth
www.foe.co.uk/resource/submissions/pembroke_power_station_c...
Jun 18, 2010 - comply with EU law in respect of the new Pembroke power station and ..... http://www.marinemanagement.org.uk/works/documents/environme... ..... On 22nd December 2008, we understand that the EA issued an abstraction licence to ...... Signed in Cardiff ***on 18th June 2010*** by:.

www.co.missoula.mt.us/mcbcc/...10/StaffRpt_PublicWorksManua...
Mar 3, 2010 - 2008-149 on December 22nd, 2008. Over the ..... Uniform Traffic Control Devices published by the U.S. Department of Transportation,. Federal ...

09-0426 In re Laibe Corporation - Supreme Court of Texas
https://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/historical/2010/mar/0...
Nothing stated in this Contract is intended to prevent us from commencing any ... denied by an order signed on December 19, 2008, and filed on December 22, 2008. ... a clear abuse of discretion for which the relator has no adequate remedy at law. ... Doug Jackson testified that the invoice was signed in Texas, the rig had ...

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Sorry, typo:
... to reduce the more "florid" aspects of legalEse.

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Thank you, Charles and Tañia. You're right; there should NOT be a comma after December in the UK style. (I was concentrating so much on the "on," the "nd" after "22" and the UK/US differences, I stuck the American comma in the British. Sorry. :)

... on 22 December 2008.
Peer comment(s):

agree Taña Dalglish : Agree. However, no comma after "22" http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/dec/22/mainsecti... Un abrazo.
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Thanks, Taña. Salu2! :-)
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Villahermosa, Tabasco, on December 22th, 2008

Es una terminología, legal.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Taña Dalglish : Sorry Rolando, if you going to write it this way, it is 22nd, not "th"; Additionally, many US companies, from personal experience do not like the use of th, nd, etc.
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neutral lorenab23 : 22nd...
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