Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
auf Gedeih und Verderb
English translation:
for better or (for) worse
Added to glossary by
Hilary Davies Shelby
Mar 7, 2005 16:40
19 yrs ago
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German term
auf Gedeih und Verderb
German to English
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
politics/general/expression
"Osama bin Laden und George Bush jnr sind auf Gedeih und Verderb zusammengeschweisst".
I know what it means - sort of bound together/inextricably linked, etc, but has anyone got any ideas on a more poetic way to render this in English, to reflect the drama in the German?
Many thanks!
Hilary ;-)
I know what it means - sort of bound together/inextricably linked, etc, but has anyone got any ideas on a more poetic way to render this in English, to reflect the drama in the German?
Many thanks!
Hilary ;-)
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +1 | for better or worse | Kim Metzger |
4 +5 | for better or for worse | Michael Schubert |
4 +3 | till death do them part | CMJ_Trans (X) |
4 +1 | come hell or high waters! | swisstell |
3 | for better or worse | Rebekah Wils (X) |
Change log
Dec 5, 2005 14:22: Kim Metzger changed "Field" from "Other" to "Art/Literary"
Proposed translations
+1
1 min
Selected
for better or worse
:)
Reference:
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks to everyone - Kim was just a little bit faster! I would use it either with or without the second "for", both are correct, and for future reference "come hell or high water" (singular, always!) is another great suggestion. Thanks very much!"
2 mins
for better or worse
an option?
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-03-07 16:43:14 GMT)
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Hi Kim & Michael, didn\'t see your ideas before I submitted mine!
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-03-07 16:43:14 GMT)
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Hi Kim & Michael, didn\'t see your ideas before I submitted mine!
+3
12 mins
till death do them part
....
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Note added at 2005-03-07 16:53:37 (GMT)
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bound to each other
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Note added at 2005-03-07 16:58:27 (GMT)
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they are stuck with each other
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Note added at 2005-03-07 16:58:46 (GMT)
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they are wedded to each other till death do them part
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Note added at 2005-03-07 16:53:37 (GMT)
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bound to each other
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Note added at 2005-03-07 16:58:27 (GMT)
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they are stuck with each other
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Note added at 2005-03-07 16:58:46 (GMT)
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they are wedded to each other till death do them part
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Friderike Butler
: this works as well (can't see that there ever would be a "better" in this union)
14 mins
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agree |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: ...but "till death do them part" hits the nail!
18 mins
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agree |
Francis Lee (X)
1 hr
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+1
6 mins
come hell or high waters!
they are inextricably linked to each other, come hell or high waters
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Note added at 33 mins (2005-03-07 17:13:15 GMT)
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for the benefit of CMJ_Trans (see \"neutral\" below)
Listmania! Books I\'ll own, Come hell or high waters!!!! -
Listmania! Books I\'ll own, Come hell or high waters!!!! by Melanie Gibson,
Voracious consumer of books! 1. Isabella and the Strange ...
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/listmania/list-browse/-/3FR9Q20PBWLHL - 90k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
2FamousLyrics - I - Iq - High Waters - Songs, lyrics, Albums ... - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
... Wherever the faithless are With any other prey approaching Come hell or come waters
high Believe it or surrender nothing In all that is envious He\'s sworn to ...
www.2famouslyrics.com/i/iq/high-waters.html
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Note added at 33 mins (2005-03-07 17:13:15 GMT)
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for the benefit of CMJ_Trans (see \"neutral\" below)
Listmania! Books I\'ll own, Come hell or high waters!!!! -
Listmania! Books I\'ll own, Come hell or high waters!!!! by Melanie Gibson,
Voracious consumer of books! 1. Isabella and the Strange ...
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/listmania/list-browse/-/3FR9Q20PBWLHL - 90k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten
2FamousLyrics - I - Iq - High Waters - Songs, lyrics, Albums ... - [ Diese Seite übersetzen ]
... Wherever the faithless are With any other prey approaching Come hell or come waters
high Believe it or surrender nothing In all that is envious He\'s sworn to ...
www.2famouslyrics.com/i/iq/high-waters.html
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
CMJ_Trans (X)
: high water (no 's')
6 mins
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agree |
Friderike Butler
: this also covers the double negative of the original
18 mins
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thanks, Friderike
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neutral |
Michael Schubert
: I agree with CMJ about no 's' (despite the links -- you can find ANYTHING on the Internet!)
2 hrs
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I agree with you about anything being in Google. I disagree with your judgment. WATERS is a literary expression here, to emphasize the magnitude. Just as you would not say "the sky fell in" but rather "the skies fell in
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+5
2 mins
for better or for worse
a marriage of (in)convenience?
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Note added at 3 hrs 3 mins (2005-03-07 19:43:26 GMT)
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Full sentence:
OBL and GWB are stuck with each other [in a marriage of inconvenience] for better or for worse.
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Note added at 3 hrs 3 mins (2005-03-07 19:43:26 GMT)
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Full sentence:
OBL and GWB are stuck with each other [in a marriage of inconvenience] for better or for worse.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
IanW (X)
: I'd put "for" twice, as you did - and I'd probably use the "marriage of inconvenience" as well!
1 min
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agree |
Laura Terrett
: I'd also repeat "for"
3 mins
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agree |
Elimar Orlopp
: like that, I just associated that OBL and Bush are welded together, would that not be a real nice drama, or does it jar the English ear too much?
26 mins
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agree |
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
: I like this one but...
28 mins
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agree |
Meturgan
16 hrs
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