Apr 25, 2007 08:25
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German term

Anschnitt aus TM

German to English Medical Medical (general) Skin cancer
This is from a report of a skin cancer excision. Comes under the sub-heading "Makroskopisch":

Exact text as follows:
Anschnitt aus TM: 25 x 16 x 6mmA=1.Scheibe,B=2 Teile, Anschnitt aus TG 0.00-3.00 Uhr: 8 x 5 x 1mm, Anschnitt aus 0.00-2.00 Uhr .....etc.

My initial query is for "Anschnitt aus TM", but I need to ask the same question for "aus TG", and what about when it is just "Anschnitt aus 0.00-2.00"

For TM - I have considered Tumour marker - but this wouldn't work here, and I have also wondered whether they just mean "tumour"....

Any ideas?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 section from the centre of the tumour

Discussion

PPaulus Apr 25, 2007:
Yes, Sue, go ahead and post your suggestion (TG = Tumorgrenze, TM = Tumormitte) - and you'll get a second agree ;-)
MMUlr Apr 25, 2007:
I do agree completely with Sue ... and thank you, Sue, for the useful reference text! IMO you should post your suggestions as an answer - and I would give you my agree immediately. ;-)
Dr Sue Levy (X) Apr 25, 2007:
Yes I also think TM could well be Tumormitte.
Peter Bajorek (asker) Apr 25, 2007:
@MMUIr - there is very little before the section on Anschnitte - it just says that it is a suspected basal cell carcinoma on the patient's temple and they are going to perform excision with micrographic margin control.

@ Sue - I had just reached that conclusion about the hours... The section taken from TM is the largest - so maybe it means Tumormitte - they removed the centre of the tumour first, then move onto the margins - TG. Thanks for the link!
Dr Sue Levy (X) Apr 25, 2007:
Here is a good example of pathologist-speak http://ccr.coriell.org/lms/pdfiles/LM00005.pdf
Dr Sue Levy (X) Apr 25, 2007:
TG - Tumorgrenze?
Dr Sue Levy (X) Apr 25, 2007:
The hours are the position from which the sections were taken - from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock position, etc.
MMUlr Apr 25, 2007:
@Peter, what is the description of the tissue 'before' mentioning the Anschnitte? Is this the whole text? Would you pls. provide the whole paragraph? (No, TM is not Tumormarker, rather IMO Tumormasse etc. ... ?) You can only guess at the moment.

Proposed translations

+2
6 hrs
Selected

section from the centre of the tumour

TM Tumormitte
TG tumorgrenze - tumor margin - although this probably means from the margin of the whole resection specimen

You got the hours bit :-)

Path reports are tricky devils!
Peer comment(s):

agree MMUlr : :-))
56 mins
thank you kindly :-)
agree Dr.G.MD (X)
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