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These are Anglo-Saxon concepts...

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Anglo-Saxon really invokes some medieval connotations, but Anglo-Saxon here is only used to distinguish b/w Continental Europe and Britain/North America/Aussieland etc. Many concepts of law in these countries are based on Saxon law.

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e.g. the right to be judged by peers, the precedence concept and others

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Anglo-Saxon refers only to Britain and where the British settled permanently, that is obviously Canada, Australia, the US, NZ. I don\'t think South Africa, Belize, India are considered Anglo-Saxon countries. What do the readers think?

(Just a joke, don\'t flame me: Some parts of the US nowadays aren\'t actually Anglo-Saxon anymore; in Southern California, WASPs (White Anglo-Saxon People) are a minority.)

if it really only means UK and US, otherwise Anglo-Saxon

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There are Anglo-Saxon concepts of course, and if this is one of them, then you should use the same term.

However, often angelsächsisch is used to denote English speaking countries, specificically JUST US and UK. And if this is the case in your text, then I would say:

... developed by the Anglo-Americans
... developed within the Anglo-American culture(s)

hope it helps

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To Karin:
The definition, to an extent, depends on the author of your text and what (political) point he is trying to make. Anglo-Saxon as in White Anglo-Saxon Protestants would be one way of looking at it.
If the author is comparing Anglo-Saxon with European/ Latin \'races/cultures/systems\' (if it\'s the text I\'m thinking of ...), he probably means Anglo-American.

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I doubt very much whether the \'Raum\' refers to a geographically defined region. He could have said \'im englischen Sprachraum\' except he wanted to narrow it down to English speaking countries with an Anglo-Saxon history (US,UK, Ireland, Canada, Australia etc).

My final comment: it is probably safest to use Anglo-Saxon because a. there is no clear definition b. the author decided to use it and might be offended if you change it in the translation, especially if the text is at all political.

sorry, not Anglo-Americans like above, these are English speaking Americans

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Note added at 2003-02-24 15:36:31 (GMT)
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I see that sometimes Canada is included as and \"angelsächsischen Land\"

REFERENCE: http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:OjT72pSe83cC:www.verdi....

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Ha! And here\'s a reference to Australia being an anglo-saxon country: http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:89lzr6ZPgd8C:www.utu.fi...

However, I would be careful about saying just \"English-speaking countries\" I am certain it refers to historical-British roots, although there is no mention of India.

I think you're right about the possibility of the term having a broader potential application than America and England, which is why I suggest "sphere of influence". As to the "medieval" connotations, a lot of Europeans really do continue to think in terms of a cultural division between the "civilized" (or "decadent", depending on which side of the fence you are on) Roman influence and the "barbarian" (or "fresh and vigorous") cultures, so you might as well keep the term.

This is an expression for all English-speaking countries, native English speakers.

At the same time, you are right, Anglo-Saxon means old/medieval English (language/literature) and Anglo-Saxonism means the British and American culture (without the Commonwealth!) - and the loftiness there, too. So the same root appears in different words with different content... Well, in this particular case, I would go for Britain and the US, "as seen from elsewhere".

If the talk is about jurisprudence, one hears people say that the Anglo-Saxon concept of law differs from that of Europe.

I think this would work.

no imperialism/colonial implied.

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colonialism