Berufsfachschule für electrotechnik

English translation: (vocational) diploma in electrical engineering

11:01 Aug 22, 2023
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German term or phrase: Berufsfachschule für electrotechnik
In a certificate of school leave, the owner of the certificate is said to have graduated from "Berufsfachschule für electrotechnik"
Well, this has been translated as "Vocational school for electrical engineering" several times elsewhere, but I doubt this would be accurate.
An electrical engineer does not get a certificate from a vocational school; it is taken from universities.
Would it be better to call it "Vocational school for electrical technologies" or something like that?
Cenk Başaran
Türkiye
Local time: 02:18
English translation:(vocational) diploma in electrical engineering
Explanation:
Schule doesn't mean school or college here - it means course.

In my example, it's a one- or two-year programme, so it's a diploma rather than a degree.

You could leave out "vocational", since people will be taking it to improve their job prospects rather than for fun.

This one is provided by Berufliches Schulzentrum Leonberg:

2-jährige Berufsfachschule Elektrotechnik
Dieser Schultyp gilt als "Bindeglied" zwischen Hauptschule/Werkrealschule/Gemeinschaftsschule und weiterführender Schule und eröffnet interessierten Jugendlichen weitere Aufstiegsmöglichkeiten.
http://www.bszleo.de/schulangebot/vollzeitschulen/2-jaehrige...

And this by Friedrich-Hecker-Schule:
Die **Berufsfachschule Elektrotechnik** gibt es an der Friedrich-Hecker-Schule in zwei Arten. Zum einen ist das die einjährige Berufsfachschule, eine Schulart, welche den Grundstein für die betriebliche Ausbildung legt. Sie wird von den Schülern besucht, die in den Ausbildungsbetrieben in der Region Sinsheim im Elektrobereich ausgebildet werden...
https://www.friedrich-hecker-schule.de/berufsfelder/elektrot...


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4 +2(vocational) diploma in electrical engineering
philgoddard
4Technical College for Electrial Engineering
Heike Holthaus
5 -1vocational school (for electrical engineering) with classes in in higher education
Johannes Gleim
3Full-time Vocational (BrE: City & Guilds) School of Electrical Engineering
Adrian MM.
1 +1Technical College in Electrical Technology or Electrical Engineering Technology
andres-larsen
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Berufsfachschule (full time vocational course - basic course)
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Technical College in Electrical Technology or Electrical Engineering Technology


Explanation:
depends on whether this is an undergrad two-year associate degree or not / could be:

Berufsfachschule | Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch
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Deutsch-Englisch-Übersetzung für "Berufsfachschule" ... technical college of vocational education educ. Werbung. Berufsfachschule {f} · vocational ...

Elektrotechnik | Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch
https://www.dict.cc › s=Elektrotechnik
electrical engineering educ. electr. wissenschaftliche Elektrotechnik {f} · electrical science acad. electr. engin ...

Electrical Engineering Technology
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The Wisconsin Technical College System offers more than 500 programs awarding two-year associate degrees, one- and two-year technical diplomas, short-term ...

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andres-larsen
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  -> Vielen Dank, auch für den Bewertungskommentar!
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Berufsfachschule für Electrotechnik
Full-time Vocational (BrE: City & Guilds) School of Electrical Engineering


Explanation:
Neither the first Discussion Entry, nor the question itself is particularly clear on what is 'taken from university'.

It's also a school or college *of*, rather than the prepositional Denglish of 'for'.

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weblink again: https://cdn.cityandguilds.com/productdocuments/engineering/e...

Example sentence(s):
  • IATE: de Berufsfachschule COM en full-time vocational school COM

    Reference: http://cdn.cityandguilds.com/productdocuments/engineering/el...
Adrian MM.
Austria
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(vocational) diploma in electrical engineering


Explanation:
Schule doesn't mean school or college here - it means course.

In my example, it's a one- or two-year programme, so it's a diploma rather than a degree.

You could leave out "vocational", since people will be taking it to improve their job prospects rather than for fun.

This one is provided by Berufliches Schulzentrum Leonberg:

2-jährige Berufsfachschule Elektrotechnik
Dieser Schultyp gilt als "Bindeglied" zwischen Hauptschule/Werkrealschule/Gemeinschaftsschule und weiterführender Schule und eröffnet interessierten Jugendlichen weitere Aufstiegsmöglichkeiten.
http://www.bszleo.de/schulangebot/vollzeitschulen/2-jaehrige...

And this by Friedrich-Hecker-Schule:
Die **Berufsfachschule Elektrotechnik** gibt es an der Friedrich-Hecker-Schule in zwei Arten. Zum einen ist das die einjährige Berufsfachschule, eine Schulart, welche den Grundstein für die betriebliche Ausbildung legt. Sie wird von den Schülern besucht, die in den Ausbildungsbetrieben in der Region Sinsheim im Elektrobereich ausgebildet werden...
https://www.friedrich-hecker-schule.de/berufsfelder/elektrot...




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agree  Kim Metzger: https://www.eurasia-institute.com/en/academic-pathway/vocati...
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Berufsfachschule für Electrotechnik
Technical College for Electrial Engineering


Explanation:
Sources:
Wörterbuch Hochschule by Dirk Siepmann, Deutscher Hochschulverband
Europass https://europa.eu/europass/lv/node/97

The term "vocational school" is also mentioned, but I would use this term for "Berufsschule"

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Technical College of Electrical Engineering - of course


    Reference: http://https://europa.eu/europass/lv/node/97
Heike Holthaus
United States
Local time: 19:18
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish

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neutral  philgoddard: No - see my answer.
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neutral  Schtroumpf: European refs are helpful indeed! This link shows an EQF Level 4 - https://europa.eu/europass/fr/compare-qualifications?field_e...[6068]=6068&field_location_selection_target_id[6072]=6072
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Berufsfachschule/Berufliche Schule (für Elektrotechnik)
vocational school (for electrical engineering) with classes in in higher education


Explanation:
Vielen Dank für den Link zu BERUFLICHE SCHULE ALTONA

Auf der Seite "Unsere Schule" wird spezifiziert, welche Abschlüsse dort erworben werden. Ich gehe davon aus, dass es hier um den höchsten Abschluss geht " geprüfte Techniker".

Neben der Berufsschule können Schülerinnen und Schüler bei uns in der Fachhochschule die Fachholschulreife erwerben oder sich in der Fachschule Technik zum Staatlich geprüften Techniker weiterbilden lassen.
https://www.bea-hamburg.de/unsere-schule/

2. Realschule until grade 10 or 11 (with Mittlere Reife (or Realschulabschluss) as exit exam); students can then attend Berufsfachschule (full-time vocational schools[24]) or Fachoberschule for 2-3 years, which combines vocational school and an apprenticeship. In some regions there is Regionalschule, which is a combination of Realschule and Hauptschule. Pupils study for either 9 years, to obtain a qualification similar to the Hauptschulabschluss, or 10 years, to get the Mittlere Reife.

After children complete their primary education (at 10 years of age/grade 4, 12 year of age in Berlin and Brandenburg), there are four options for secondary schooling [23]:
1. Gymnasium (Germany) until grade 12 or 13 (with Abitur as exit exam, qualifying for university).
2. Realschule until grade 10 or 11 (with Mittlere Reife (or Realschulabschluss) as exit exam); students can then attend Berufsfachschule (full-time vocational schools[24]) or Fachoberschule for 2-3 years, which combines vocational school and an apprenticeship. In some regions there is Regionalschule, which is a combination of Realschule and Hauptschule. Pupils study for either 9 years, to obtain a qualification similar to the Hauptschulabschluss, or 10 years, to get the Mittlere Reife.
3. Hauptschule until grade 9, with an exam called the Hauptschulabschluss, to conclude. Afterwards, students can attend vocational schools.
4. Gesamtschule, which is a combination of the above, for 5-8 years, with a different qualification for different durations: 5 years for the Hauptschulabschluss; if a student opts for the longer 8 year program, they can take the gymnasium abitur exam, qualifying for university.
After passing through any of the above schools, pupils can start a career with an apprenticeship in the Berufsschule (vocational school). The Berufsschule is normally attended twice a week during a two, three, or three-and-a-half-year apprenticeship; the other days are spent working at a company. This is intended to provide a knowledge of theory and practice.
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There is another type of university in Germany: the Fachhochschulen (Universities of Applied Sciences), which offer mostly the same degrees as Universitäten, but often concentrate on applied science (as the English name suggests)
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Students wishing to attend a German Universität must, as a rule, hold the Abitur or a subject-restricted qualification for university entrance (Fachgebundene Hochschulreife). For Fachhochschulen, the Abitur, the Fachgebundene Hochschulreife certification or the Fachhochschulreife certification (general or subject-restricted) is required.
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Those wishing to attend a university of applied sciences (Fachhochschule) must, as a rule, have Abitur, Fachhochschulreife, or a Meisterbrief.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Germany

advanced technical college entrance qualification | die Fachhochschulreife Pl.
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/Fachhochschulreife

Term: Elektrotechnik
Term:
electrical engineering
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/46262/de-en

Term: Berufsschule
Definition: school in which students are taught the skills needed to perform a particular job
Term: vocational school
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1568107/de-en

Term: Berufsaufbauschule
Definition: in Voll-oder Teilzeitform organisierte Schule, die mit Fachschulreife abschliesst und Teil des zweiten Bildungswegs ist
Term in context: An der Berufsaufbauschule können Jugendliche mit einer abgeschlossenen Berufsausbildung im gewerblich- technischen Bereich in einem Jahr Vollzeitunterricht die Fachschulreife (Mittlere Reife) erwerben. Sie vermittelt neben einer erweiterten Allgemeinbildung ebenso vertiefte naturwissenschaftlich- technische Kenntnisse.
Term: vocational college in higher education
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1394033/de-en

Personal note: Myself, I made first an apprenticeship for electrician and attended a vocational school on evening courses, followed by the "Berufsaufbauschule" (vocational college in higher education) to achieve the "Fachhochschulreife" and qualified for studying at the university for applied sciences.

Conclusion: This vocational school has classes for higher education, but it does not name itself accordingly. The official translation remains 'vocational school'.

Personal note: I first completed an electrician apprenticeship and concurrently attended a vocational school in evening classes, then I attended a vocational college in higher education to obtain the university entrance qualification (Fachhochschulreife) and to qualify for studies at the University of Applied Sciences.

Conclusion: The vocational school has classes for the university entrance qualification, but does not call itself accordingly. The official translation is still "vocational school".

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 01:18
Native speaker of: German

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disagree  Schtroumpf: Neither Berufsschule nor Fachhochschule were to be translated here. Nor any "higher education" (???). The term is about some EQF level 4.
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  -> Wrong, the question was how to translate Berufsfachschule für electrotechnik", and that's what I did, taking into consideration my owns experiences, the BERUFLICHE SCHULE ALTONA and relevant references.
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Reference: Berufsfachschule (full time vocational course - basic course)

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Berufsfachschule (full time vocational course - basic course)

School-leavers who are not yet 18 and who do not start an apprenticeship are obliged to attend a vocational college until they are of age. Teaching at Berufsfachschule consists of both vocational training (about 60%) and general education (about 40%).

Zweijaehrige Hoehere Berufsfachschule
Zweijaehrige Hoehere Berufsfachschule is a two years’ course that prepares students - in combination with a period of six months’ job placement at a company - to enter a University of Applied Sciences (Fachhochschule). The course also helps students improve their chances of starting an apprenticeship.

https://www.egb-koeln.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=a...

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Bildungsgänge
Berufsfachschule
• Berufsqualifizierung Elektroniker/innen Fachrichtung Energie und Gebäudetechnik, Fachrichtung Betriebstechnik
Fachoberschule
• Fachbereich Technik – Fachrichtung Elektrotechnik
A Bildungsgang is a course of studies or educational programme. The above two (among others) "Schulen" are courses of studies.
https://hibb.hamburg.de/schulen/schulportraits/bs22/

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Vocational diploma
In this 3 and a half year programme you can qualify for a huge range of vocational technical or skill-based professions in Germany, ending up in a diploma qualification that will be recognised all over the European Union. https://www.eurasia-institute.com/en/academic-pathway/vocati...

Curricula will be redesigned according to EQF indicators and descriptors. Three-year vocational qualifications and a four-year vocational diploma will be awarded. https://www.cedefop.europa.eu/files/2212_en.pdf

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