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vacation... hors débours...

English translation: statutory scale fee ... excluding disbursements (out-of-pocket expenses)

23:12 Dec 9, 2023
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright
French term or phrase: vacation... hors débours...
This is in the context of distribution of costs:

"Tous les frais et droits des présentes et de leurs suites seront supportés et acquittés par le Cédant et le Cessionnaire qui s'y obligent selon la répartition ci-dessous.

Les honoraires de compromis dus au cabinet [AVOCATS] s'élèvent à la somme de ____________€ et seront supportés par le Cédant.

Le montant des honoraires de la cession définitive s'élèvent à _____________€ de frais de tirage, vacation et frais de reprographie, hors débours et droits d'enregistrement qui sont pris en charge par le Cessionnaire."

My first question - what is the best word for 'vacation' ('other legal fees'?) and 'débours' ('expenses'?) ?

My 2nd question - The last sentence seems to me poorly drafted... I think we are meant to understand that the Assignee is to bear the costs of the final deed, but it does not expressly say so. As I read it, it only acknowledges that the Assignee will be bearing the costs of some expenses and registration fees... Am I reading wrong? Is it crystal clear or should I bring this up with the client to clarify what the Assignee is supposed to pay?

Thank you for any help.
Victoria Schmidt
France
Local time: 03:03
English translation:statutory scale fee ... excluding disbursements (out-of-pocket expenses)
Explanation:
Two different terms, so really two sperarae posts. Out-of-pocket expenses is used in the 'trade', the amount whereog often queried by clients.
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Adrian MM.
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statutory scale fee ... excluding disbursements (out-of-pocket expenses)


Explanation:
Two different terms, so really two sperarae posts. Out-of-pocket expenses is used in the 'trade', the amount whereog often queried by clients.

Example sentence(s):
  • Vacations. Ce qui est fixé par la loi. LE MONTANT EST. FIXÉ LÉGALEMENT. LE ... Discutez clairement du dossier avec votre notaire au préalable.
  • The duty to specify scales of fees is one of PSAA's statutory functions as the appointing person. ... The fee scale is set each year based on the fee scale ...

    Reference: http://www.chone.notaires.fr/lexique-juridique-et-fiscal-de-...
    Reference: http://www.wikiwords.org/dictionary/term/312268/622800
Adrian MM.
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