Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

percevront l\'élément géographique le plus faible

English translation:

will receive the lowest geographical component

Added to glossary by Lara Barnett
Aug 28, 2022 12:01
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French term

percevront l'élément géographique le plus faible

French to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Terms of Assignment for volunteering abroad
This is from terms & conditions for a volunteer abroad placement.

"les V.I.E. percevront l'element geographique le plus faible de la "zone Euro".

This is found towards the end of a section on remuneration and allowances, but I have no idea what this bit specifically refers to, and also how "percevront" is being used here.

Thanks.
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Emmanuella Aug 28, 2022:
Percevoir = to earn
ph-b (X) Aug 28, 2022:
percevoir l'élément géographique percevoir = to earn
VIE = volontariat/volontaire international en entreprise (French govt scheme)
élément géographique = the salary they earn changes according to the country they live in. Diplomats and the like earn a salary and an élément géographique, i.e. a kind of bonus according to where they're posted. Think "danger money", cost of living differentials, etc.
I once was volontaire du service national actif (VSNA, i.e. your VIE's remote ancestor) and that's how we were paid.
Here, your VIEs aren't paid according to where they are posted, but they get the lowest possible salary French civil servants (etc.) get in euroland, wherever they may be.
Myriam Seers Aug 28, 2022:
Definition of "percevoir" in this context Per my answer translating "percevront" as "will receive", here is the dictionary definition for this sense of "percevoir". We can say "percevoir une prestation de chômage,

4. Recevoir une somme d'argent, la toucher : Percevoir une indemnité de l'assurance.
https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/percevoir/594...
MoiraB Aug 28, 2022:
@ Barbara This seems to be the source text: https://pdf4pro.com/cdn/juillet-2015-accueil-civiweb-com-3eb...
= Volontariat International en Entreprise
Lara Barnett (asker) Aug 28, 2022:
VIE "Mon Volontariat Internationale" - These are types of internships or voluntary placements organised by a Business promotion service in France.
I am assuming that VIE here relates to the volunteers, but I cannot be sure. This is exactly how it is written.
https://mon-vie-via.businessfrance.fr/en/vie-french-internat...
Barbara Cochran, MFA Aug 28, 2022:
V.I.E. What does that acronym stand for, in French, please? Thanks.

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French term (edited): percevront l'element geographique le plus faible
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will receive the lowest geographical component

... for the lump sum living allowance applicable in the Euro zone

In the version of the document that Moira posted, see p. 12 -- the geographical components in question have to do with the lump sum living allowance (indemnités forfaitaires d'entrentien ... élément lié au pays d'affectation (élément géographique).
Then the paragraph where the segment is located says that, when staying in France, volunteers will receive the lowest geographical component (for their lump sum living allowance) that applies in the Euro zone.
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agree ph-b (X) : Saw this after I posted in the discussion.
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agree Samuël Buysschaert
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agree Emmanuella : earn
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agree AllegroTrans
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agree Anastasia Kalantzi
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agree Yvonne Gallagher
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French term (edited): percevront l'element geographique le plus faible

are to receive the least generous part by geographical area

... will be in for or are to receive the smallest 'slice of the cake' per Volontariat International en Entreprise.

Notes: 1. percevoir also routinely translates as drawing of benefits etc. and it is arguably 'remiss to miss' that translation.
2. tense may be future continuous: will be receving or drawing - it's hard to nail stylistically.
Example sentence:

The objective of IAS 14 (Revised 1997) is to establish principles for reporting financial information by line of business and by geographical area.

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French term (edited): percevront l'element geographique le plus faible

(will receive) the lowest geographical weighting (allowance)

"Weighting allowances" are how these are referred to in UK English;
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Geographical allowance

Lara, I think you may have answered your own question with the link you gave in your discussion entry. The below excerpts are from the EN & FR FAQ sections on the Mon Volontariat International website. Indemnité géographique and "geographical allowance" look to me to be the same thing as élément géographique in the document linked to by Moira.

"4. How much do you earn as a Business France V.I.E or V.I.A ?

Being an International Intern is not voluntary work. As a V.I.E or V.I.A participant, you are always paid in exchange for your work, regardless of the type of assignment, the country you go to or the structure that hosts you. [...] Actually, we do not refer to salary when it comes to the remuneration of International Interns. The accepted term is: Fixed Maintenance Allowances [...]

How much does a V.I.E / V.I.A earn ?

There is no standard answer to this question, for the reason that the International Intern's allowance consists of a fixed component and a variable component that depends on the country of destination. To be more precise, the fixed maintenance allowance includes :

- A common allowance, identical for all International Interns. Revised every year, this amount is set at €723.99/month in 2022.

- A geographical allowance that depends on the country or even the locality in which you carry out your assignment. It is set based on the local standard of living to cover the subsistence, equipment and accommodation needs of the intern in the host country. Recalculated quarterly, it currently varies from € 775,57 to €4 152,14 (rates from July 2022)."

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« 4. Quel est le salaire d’un V.I.E / V.I.A ?

Le Volontariat International n’est pas une activité bénévole. En tant que V.I.E et V.I.A, vous êtes toujours payé en échange de votre travail et cela quels que soient le type de mission, le pays où vous partez ou la structure qui vous accueille.
Vous avez dit salaire ? A vrai dire, on ne parle pas de salaire quand il s’agit de la rémunération du Volontaire International. Le terme consacré est : Indemnités Forfaitaires d’Entretien (I.F.E. pour les intimes). [...]

Combien gagne un V.I.E / V.I.A ?

Il n’y a pas de réponse standard à cette question pour la bonne raison que l’indemnité du Volontaire International est composée d’une part fixe et d’une part variable qui dépend du pays de destination.

Pour être plus précis, l’indemnité forfaitaire d’entretien comporte :

- Une indemnité commune, identique pour tous les Volontaires Internationaux. Révisé tous les ans, ce montant est fixé à 723,99 € / mois en 2022.

- Une indemnité géographique qui dépend du pays voire de la localité dans lesquels vous effectuez votre mission. Elle est fixée en fonction du niveau de vie local pour couvrir les besoins de subsistance, d’équipement et de logement du volontaire dans le pays d’accueil. Recalculée trimestriellement, elle varie actuellement de 775,57 € à 4 152,14 € (barèmes de juillet 2022). »

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Note added at 3 hrs (2022-08-28 16:00:29 GMT)
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See also:
https://www.economie.gouv.fr/particuliers/volontariat-intern...
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F10040
Note from asker:
Thank you.
Thank you for your help.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

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