Jul 27, 2022 20:44
1 yr ago
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French term
United Kingdom
MA French and Arabic Translator
Native in: English 
Works in: Arabic to English, French to English
je vous mets en dessous
French to English
Science
Environment & Ecology
Sentences for AI learning
On va dire, on va espérer que dans les décharges, ils le traitent correctement n'est-ce pas, mais voilà donc ça c'était j'ai vraiment trouvé ça top, ce…ce petit filet.
Pareil, je vous mets en dessous, maintenant vous allez me dire oui, moi je suis minimaliste, je veux pas d'objet, pas de souci…
Pareil, je vous mets en dessous, maintenant vous allez me dire oui, moi je suis minimaliste, je veux pas d'objet, pas de souci…
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | I'll put you below/underneath |
Conor McAuley
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| 2 | take s.o. down; now to take your sort down a peg |
Adrian MM.
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References
| I present you... |
José Patrício
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Proposed translations
+1
4 hrs
Conor McAuley
France
France
Native in English
Works in field
France
Excellence, Expertise & Experience
Native in: English (Variants: UK, Scottish, Irish, British, Wales / Welsh)
Works in: French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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Selected
I'll put you below/underneath
Presumably someone putting something into a recycling bin.
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
11 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
French term (edited):
mettre qqn. en dessous; je vous mets en dessous
take s.o. down; now to take your sort down a peg
> rather than to stick somone in underwear and possibly to contrast with : 'ça c'était j'ai vraiment trouvé ça *top*...'
je #vous# mets en dessous, maintenant vous allez me dire oui: I'm going to take you #your sort# down/ a peg (put you on the spot : under pressure). Now you are going to agree with me...
The expression of 'Être dans le ou au trente-sixième dessous' in the first web ref. seems only tangentially related to a 'downer'.
Now to wait for native French readers to add their choice (post-Euro match) comments....
Otherwise, this A1 learning seems to cover a broad range of categories, including banking - here, Science - Environment & Ecology.
je #vous# mets en dessous, maintenant vous allez me dire oui: I'm going to take you #your sort# down/ a peg (put you on the spot : under pressure). Now you are going to agree with me...
The expression of 'Être dans le ou au trente-sixième dessous' in the first web ref. seems only tangentially related to a 'downer'.
Now to wait for native French readers to add their choice (post-Euro match) comments....
Otherwise, this A1 learning seems to cover a broad range of categories, including banking - here, Science - Environment & Ecology.
Example sentence:
They are not responsible for the present crisis, so why should the aspirations and needs of their people be relegated to the back seat?
Reference comments
39 mins
Reference:
I present you...
I present you...; I put forward
One subintent ‘I present you something’. One will know after he says what
Je vous mets plein d'infos en dessous - https://www.instagram.com/p/B9liWtVCBNu/
je vais mettre un petit lien en-dessous, il y a une offre sur les trois packs de Français Authentique - https://www.francaisauthentique.com/mettre-la-cle-sous-la-po...
Definition of bring forward
verb (tr, adverb)
to present or introduce (a subject) for discussion - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bring--forward
One subintent ‘I present you something’. One will know after he says what
Je vous mets plein d'infos en dessous - https://www.instagram.com/p/B9liWtVCBNu/
je vais mettre un petit lien en-dessous, il y a une offre sur les trois packs de Français Authentique - https://www.francaisauthentique.com/mettre-la-cle-sous-la-po...
Definition of bring forward
verb (tr, adverb)
to present or introduce (a subject) for discussion - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bring--forward
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| disagree |
Tony M
: Doesn't make sense: in your examples, there is always a direct object; whereas in the sentence given, the direct object nonsensically appears to be 'vous', whence the puzzlement.
8 hrs
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Think, please, fundamental colloquial and elliptical. The examples servent only to bring up the idea.
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AllegroTrans
: Totally agree with Tony
16 hrs
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But, please, read my answer to Tony and think a lot. It doesn't interest what is written but what is in mind.
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| disagree |
Conor McAuley
: Whaaaaaaat?
1 day 23 hrs
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| disagree |
Daryo
: this short dialogue can be interpreted in many ways, but I can't see any variant in which your suggestion could make any sense.
2 days 2 hrs
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| disagree |
Andrew Bramhall
: Totally off-beam, sadly;
13 days
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Discussion
The text is about recycling, it's in the style of what the French State does when it tries to explain things to us as if we were 10-year-olds.
It's not particularly well written, but there you go.
The clue, as you yourself would say, is "Ecology" – recycling.
Yet this kind of thing is needed – my neighbours follow recycling rules as if they were 10-year-olds!
As part of the longer dialogue from which it was extracted - OR as part of a movie with the added "visual context" - it surely makes perfect sense.
Limited as it is, it contains about as much "meaningful information" as an ink blot.
52 words and still a total mystery - that might be some kind of record?
Then "je vous mets en dessous" sounds like verbal abuse, "vous allez me dire oui" is coercion, and well, it's all a bit scary.
AI comes in very handy on a daily basis, but good luck to it on this kind of thing.
But if you read it again, ignoring a few bits, possibly, from a serial killer/abusive partner point of view, it's quite disturbing!
(Some of Verity's previous posts were about relationships, if I remember correctly.)
1 - a case of turkeys voting for Christmas / translators cutting off the branch they're sitting on (from the wrong side)
2 - on its own it's too ambiguous (= meaningless), so no "Intelligence" (Artificial or of any other imaginable variety) will "learn" anything useful from what will inevitably be only pure guesswork.
If the creators of AI imagine they will improve AI this way, the reports of human translation being dead have been grossly exaggerated / premature.