Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
charge d’exploitation admissible du plancher
English translation:
permitted working floor loading
Added to glossary by
Tony M
Dec 6, 2021 16:12
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French term
charge d’exploitation admissible du plancher
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
For a museum facility report:
La charge d’exploitation admissible du plancher de la salle d’exposition est de 500 kg/sq. m.
I think this could be "floor load capacity" and would appreciate input from translators with knowledge of the construction industry.
Thank you!
La charge d’exploitation admissible du plancher de la salle d’exposition est de 500 kg/sq. m.
I think this could be "floor load capacity" and would appreciate input from translators with knowledge of the construction industry.
Thank you!
Proposed translations
(English)
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Dec 8, 2021 20:33: Tony M Created KOG entry
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permitted working floor loading
In construction we usually talk about 'loading' in this sort of context.
No need to mention 'weight', as that is implied in the loading, and also made explicit by the measurement units used. However, it is worth keeping the 'working' load aspect.
No need to mention 'weight', as that is implied in the loading, and also made explicit by the measurement units used. However, it is worth keeping the 'working' load aspect.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Tony."
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permitted floor weight limit
plain english non jargon version
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Conor McAuley
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service load (allowable for the floor)
I think you're not correctly breaking up the text.
What is *service load*?
The service load is the best estimate of the actual load that a concrete member may be called on to support. The current way, Ultimate Strength. The design load is the service load increased by specified load factors in order to provide a factor of safety. Traditional Examples: Service Load = Dead Load + Live Load.Mar 29, 2004
Design Load & Service Load - Structural engineering ... - Eng-Tip
Previous question, answer by the one and only Bourth:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/metallurgy-cast...
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Sorry, you were reading the text correctly, I apologise.
And you also get that "plancher" is floor as well as ceiling (since the block of concrete is the ceiling of one level of a building and the floor of the level above).
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Note added at 15 mins (2021-12-06 16:27:11 GMT)
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That link didn't post properly:
https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=91148
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Note added at 3 hrs (2021-12-06 19:30:35 GMT)
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Here's a more reliable reference, the EU:
https://iate.europa.eu/search/result/1638818851338/1
14056821
building and public works [INDUSTRY]
COM
fr
charge d'exploitation
COM
en
service load
COM
working load
COM
12202803
building and public works [INDUSTRY]
COM
fr
charge d'exploitation
COM
en
live load
COM
Between that and Bourth's answer, well...
What is *service load*?
The service load is the best estimate of the actual load that a concrete member may be called on to support. The current way, Ultimate Strength. The design load is the service load increased by specified load factors in order to provide a factor of safety. Traditional Examples: Service Load = Dead Load + Live Load.Mar 29, 2004
Design Load & Service Load - Structural engineering ... - Eng-Tip
Previous question, answer by the one and only Bourth:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/metallurgy-cast...
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Note added at 13 mins (2021-12-06 16:25:17 GMT)
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Sorry, you were reading the text correctly, I apologise.
And you also get that "plancher" is floor as well as ceiling (since the block of concrete is the ceiling of one level of a building and the floor of the level above).
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Note added at 15 mins (2021-12-06 16:27:11 GMT)
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That link didn't post properly:
https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=91148
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Note added at 3 hrs (2021-12-06 19:30:35 GMT)
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Here's a more reliable reference, the EU:
https://iate.europa.eu/search/result/1638818851338/1
14056821
building and public works [INDUSTRY]
COM
fr
charge d'exploitation
COM
en
service load
COM
working load
COM
12202803
building and public works [INDUSTRY]
COM
fr
charge d'exploitation
COM
en
live load
COM
Between that and Bourth's answer, well...
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Or operating load.
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Thanks very much Phil!
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Bourth
: Though 'imposed load' (see your ref. to Bourth) is the 'in' word these days. However, if aimed at museographers rather than engineering types, terms such as 'service load', 'permissible load carried', etc. might be preferable.
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Thanks CT! The idea of engineers having "in" words is quite tickling to me. They're presumably parking the bus, playing with a false 9, and gegenpressing too! Allez l'OM !
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Johannes Gleim
: Service load (charge de service) differs from imposed or live load (charge d'exploitation). Voir definitions below.
23 hrs
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Kim Metzger
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Thanks Kim!
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Maximum floor-bearing load/capacity
Sandra wanted alternatives so we have to have one suggestion with "bearing" although the combinations (word choice, word order, with or without hyphen) seem endless for nearly any of the suggestions
What I like sometimes about "bearing" is that we tend to use it more for walls (the ones you cant knock out) so this suggestion goes well with "load-bearing wall"
What I like sometimes about "bearing" is that we tend to use it more for walls (the ones you cant knock out) so this suggestion goes well with "load-bearing wall"
23 hrs
Johannes Gleim
Works in field
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189
Imposed load (including live load)
La charge maximale d'utilisation (CMU), en anglais SWL pour safe working load (« charge de travail en sécurité ») ou WLL pour working load limit (« limite de charge de travail »), est la charge maximale que le matériel de levage (pont roulant, palan, crochet, élingue, etc.) peut supporter en utilisation courante.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_maximale_d'utilisation
Conclusion: « charge d'exploitation » ne correspond pas à 'working load'
Les charges — actions ou forces, permanentes ou variables dans le temps, statiques ou dynamiques, de nature mécanique ou thermique — qui concernent la stabilité des constructions et reprises en ingénierie des structures dont :
• charges permanentes : poids propre et des finitions ;
• charges d'exploitation ;
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge
Dans le bâtiment, les charges d'exploitation ou surcharges sont les charges mécaniques statiques ou dynamiques générées par le climat et les activités humaines liées à l'occupation d'un bâtiment, s'ajoutant aux charges permanentes. Elles couvrent la pression du vent, le poids de la neige et le poids des personnes, du mobilier, les impulsions données des machines, etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charges_d'exploitation_(BTP)
Domain: 6831 building and public works [ INDUSTRY ]
Term: charge de service
Term: charge d'exploitation
Term: service load
Term: working load
(All) Term reference:
Eur.Conv.for Constr.Steelwork
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1405682/fr-en
Domain: 6831 building and public works [ INDUSTRY ]
Term: charge d'exploitation
Term: live load
Term reference: Draft Eurocode No.8:Common unified rules for structures in seismic regions-Report EUR8850-1984
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1220280/fr-en
Domain:6831 building and public works [ INDUSTRY ]
Definition: la charge à laquelle est soumise une construction ou une pièce en exploitation
Term: charge d'exploitation
Term: imposed load
Note: Avoid the expression "live load" on account of its ambiguity
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1452370/fr-en
Live loads, or imposed loads, are temporary, of short duration, or a moving load. These dynamic loads may involve considerations such as impact, momentum, vibration, slosh dynamics of fluids and material fatigue.
:
Roof and floor live loads are produced during maintenance by workers, equipment and materials, and during the life of the structure by movable objects, such as planters and people.
Bridge live loads are produced by vehicles traveling over the deck of the bridge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load#Live_load
Live load is a civil engineering term that refers to a load that can change over time. The weight of the load is variable or shifts locations, such as when people are walking around in a building. Anything in a building that is not fixed to the structure can result in a live load, since it can be moved around.
https://www.safeopedia.com/definition/5715/live-load
Imposed loads are temporary, changeable or dynamic loads acting upon a structure. The magnitude of these loads is typically related to the occupancy of the space or building where the load is applied. For example, the imposed loads in an industrial facility will be different from those in a residential building. Imposed loads can also vary depending on the time of day. For example, the imposed loads in a typical office building will be higher during working hours than at night or on weekends when fewer employees are present.
https://www.corrosionpedia.com/definition/7115/imposed-load
2. Imposed Loads or Live Loads (IL or LL)
:
Types of loads acting on a structure are:
1. Dead loads
2. Imposed loads
3. Wind loads
4. Snow loads
5. Earthquake loads
6. Special loads
:
These loads are to be suitably assumed by the designer. It is one of the major load in the design. The minimum values of live loads to be assumed are given in IS 875 (part 2)–1987. It depends upon the intended use of the building.
https://theconstructor.org/structural-engg/types-of-loads-on...
• Imposed load
All external loads acting on the member to be designed are called imposed or superimposed loads.
It include live load, wind load, earthquake load, etc. Part of dead load may also act as imposed load.
• Service loads
The maximum intensity of load expected during the life span of the structure is known as service load.
It depends upon a certain probability of occurence. No additional factor of safety or over load factor is included in the service load.
• Factored loads
service loads increased by some factor of safety or overload factor are called factored loads.
https://www.civilengineeringterms.com/steel-structures/defin...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2021-12-07 15:54:37 GMT)
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the context be be translated by:
The permissible imposed load of the showroom floor is 500 kg/sq. m.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_maximale_d'utilisation
Conclusion: « charge d'exploitation » ne correspond pas à 'working load'
Les charges — actions ou forces, permanentes ou variables dans le temps, statiques ou dynamiques, de nature mécanique ou thermique — qui concernent la stabilité des constructions et reprises en ingénierie des structures dont :
• charges permanentes : poids propre et des finitions ;
• charges d'exploitation ;
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge
Dans le bâtiment, les charges d'exploitation ou surcharges sont les charges mécaniques statiques ou dynamiques générées par le climat et les activités humaines liées à l'occupation d'un bâtiment, s'ajoutant aux charges permanentes. Elles couvrent la pression du vent, le poids de la neige et le poids des personnes, du mobilier, les impulsions données des machines, etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charges_d'exploitation_(BTP)
Domain: 6831 building and public works [ INDUSTRY ]
Term: charge de service
Term: charge d'exploitation
Term: service load
Term: working load
(All) Term reference:
Eur.Conv.for Constr.Steelwork
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1405682/fr-en
Domain: 6831 building and public works [ INDUSTRY ]
Term: charge d'exploitation
Term: live load
Term reference: Draft Eurocode No.8:Common unified rules for structures in seismic regions-Report EUR8850-1984
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1220280/fr-en
Domain:6831 building and public works [ INDUSTRY ]
Definition: la charge à laquelle est soumise une construction ou une pièce en exploitation
Term: charge d'exploitation
Term: imposed load
Note: Avoid the expression "live load" on account of its ambiguity
https://iate.europa.eu/entry/result/1452370/fr-en
Live loads, or imposed loads, are temporary, of short duration, or a moving load. These dynamic loads may involve considerations such as impact, momentum, vibration, slosh dynamics of fluids and material fatigue.
:
Roof and floor live loads are produced during maintenance by workers, equipment and materials, and during the life of the structure by movable objects, such as planters and people.
Bridge live loads are produced by vehicles traveling over the deck of the bridge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load#Live_load
Live load is a civil engineering term that refers to a load that can change over time. The weight of the load is variable or shifts locations, such as when people are walking around in a building. Anything in a building that is not fixed to the structure can result in a live load, since it can be moved around.
https://www.safeopedia.com/definition/5715/live-load
Imposed loads are temporary, changeable or dynamic loads acting upon a structure. The magnitude of these loads is typically related to the occupancy of the space or building where the load is applied. For example, the imposed loads in an industrial facility will be different from those in a residential building. Imposed loads can also vary depending on the time of day. For example, the imposed loads in a typical office building will be higher during working hours than at night or on weekends when fewer employees are present.
https://www.corrosionpedia.com/definition/7115/imposed-load
2. Imposed Loads or Live Loads (IL or LL)
:
Types of loads acting on a structure are:
1. Dead loads
2. Imposed loads
3. Wind loads
4. Snow loads
5. Earthquake loads
6. Special loads
:
These loads are to be suitably assumed by the designer. It is one of the major load in the design. The minimum values of live loads to be assumed are given in IS 875 (part 2)–1987. It depends upon the intended use of the building.
https://theconstructor.org/structural-engg/types-of-loads-on...
• Imposed load
All external loads acting on the member to be designed are called imposed or superimposed loads.
It include live load, wind load, earthquake load, etc. Part of dead load may also act as imposed load.
• Service loads
The maximum intensity of load expected during the life span of the structure is known as service load.
It depends upon a certain probability of occurence. No additional factor of safety or over load factor is included in the service load.
• Factored loads
service loads increased by some factor of safety or overload factor are called factored loads.
https://www.civilengineeringterms.com/steel-structures/defin...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2021-12-07 15:54:37 GMT)
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the context be be translated by:
The permissible imposed load of the showroom floor is 500 kg/sq. m.
Discussion
Eurocode 1: Actions on structures - Part 1-1: General actions -
Densities, self-weight, imposed loads for buildings
:
3.3 Charges d'exploitation
3.3.1 Généralités
(1) P Pour les surfaces devant supporter différentes catégories de charges, le dimensionnement doit considérer le cas de charge le plus critique.
(2) P Dans les situations de projet dans lesquelles les charges d'exploitation agissent en même temps que d'autres actions variables (actions dues au vent, à la neige, aux grues ou aux machines, par exemple), les charges d'exploitation totales incluses dans le cas de charge doivent être considérées comme une action unique.
(3) Lorsque le nombre de variations de charge ou les effets des vibrations peuvent provoquer des phénomènes de fatigue, il convient d'établir un modèle de charge de fatigue.
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Tableau 6.2 — Charges d'exploitation sur les planchers, balcons et escaliers dans les bâtiments
https://www.isba.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/1-NF-EN-1991-...
Note: Categorie C3 shows 3,0 à 5,0 kN/m², i.e. 5,000 N/m²
Is this a decimal error?
Eurocode 1: Actions on structures - Part 1-1: General actions -
Densities, self-weight, imposed loads for buildings
1 General
Section 3 Design situations
(l)P The relevant permanent and imposed loads shall be determined for each design
situation identified in accordance with EN 1990, 3.2.
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3 Imposed loads
3.3.1 General
(l)P For areas which are intended to be subjected to different categories of loadings the design shall consider the most critical load case.
(2)P In design situations when imposed loads act simultaneously with other variable actions (e.g actions induced by wind, snow, cranes or machinery), the total imposed loads considered in the load case shall be considered as a single action.
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Table 6.2 - Imposed loads on floors, balconies and stairs in buildings
https://www.phd.eng.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/en.1991.1....
https://www.phd.eng.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/en.1991.1....
https://www.isba.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/1-NF-EN-1991-...
Table 6.2 shows the 500kg/m2 of your source text (ie imposed loads on floors in EN, charges exploitables sur les planchers in FR)