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Jun 26, 2021 19:01
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français term

PSA

français vers anglais Affaires / Finance Comptabilité government allocations, tax documents
French document summarizing services received by a beneficiary of the French family allowance office (CAF). I've found the very useful answers for RSA (Revenu de solidarité active) in KudoZ, and now I'm wondering if this is a 'Prime de solidarité active,' a 'Prestation de solidarité active,' or something else (even a typo?)... Here's the context:

Prime exceptionnelle PSA - [amount given]
rappel sur la période de [dates given]
Revenu de solidarité active - [amount given]
Proposed translations (anglais)
4 income support
4 PSA

Discussion

Samuël Buysschaert Jun 28, 2021:
If it's 2019 tax year, I think Conor is right, a delay in payment wouldn't be surprising and it's logical.
It was a unique bonus in 2009, a punctual event, (sort of a preview of what to expect from the future rsa system), once the RSA was deployed, there are occasional bonus granted from time to time but nothing related to this, there shouldn't be any mention of it past april 2009. (PSA paid in a single payment).
Conor McAuley Jun 28, 2021:
It's not impossible that some functionary (yes, we can say that in English, and to humourous effect also, perhaps) got really muddled. I will not venture too much into value judgements.
And it's not impossible that the payment was retrospective, 10-plus years after the fact...the cogs of bureaucracy in France sometimes turn VERY slowly.

I'm still waiting on five or ten years of statements from my very good friends at Cipav. Well, 16 out of 17, to be precise...
Stephanie Mitchel (asker) Jun 27, 2021:
2019 tax year Sorry for lagging behind the discussion! The document was issued in 2020 for 2019 income, and references to "active solidarity bonus" are not coming up for either of those years, so it may indeed have been rebranded. I'm leaning toward the broader term and will add a footnote. Thanks!, all, for taking weekend time for this.
Samuël Buysschaert Jun 27, 2021:
I'd keep the term Althea found "prime de solidarité active (active solidarity bonus)", because it was a unique one-time payment in april 2009 (about 200€ which was the anticipation equivalent of two months of RSA, it was 110 euros as average at the time for the recipients); granted to potential recipients of the RSA system, which was deployed on June 1st.
As such i wouldn't refer it as "an income" to not confuse people with RSA which already is.
https://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=1110&langId=en&in...

La prime de solidarité active (PSA)
https://www.lagazettedescommunes.com/4917/prime-de-solidarit...

Page 13
"The RSA will begin to be implemented on 1 June 2009. Ahead of its implementation, the Government will pay an exceptional bonus of €200 to 3.8 million households in the first half of 2009."
https://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/economic_governance/sgp...
Conor McAuley Jun 27, 2021:
Correction: to make it
Conor McAuley Jun 27, 2021:
Stephanie, does your document date back a few years? I think the PSA has been reformulated and repackaged as something else, presumably to made it harder to obtain.

If I remember correctly, it was essentially a relatively small social benefit (a few hundred euros?) paid to low-paid workers, for "getting on their bikes" basically.
Of course you should probably dress that up a bit, but I don't like the "active solidarity bonus" mentioned by Althea (solid work there), which is Brussels-speak in my opinion.

Maybe "Income support"?

Income Support - GOV.UKhttps://www.gov.uk › Welfare › Benefits entitlement
Income Support is extra money to help people on a low income or none at all - rates, eligibility and how to claim.
Althea Draper Jun 26, 2021:
I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but it may be of some help. This first reference, suggests that it is "prime de solidarité active" - https://questions.assemblee-nationale.fr/q13/13-40589QE.htm

Page 6 of this leaflet explains a bit about it.
https://www.caf.fr/sites/default/files/caf/431/COULEURS_CAF/...

Page 19 of this European Commission paper translates it as "prime de solidarité active (active solidarity bonus)".
https://ec.europa.eu/social/BlobServlet?docId=9028&langId=en

Hope it's of some help.
Emmanuella Jun 26, 2021:
https://www.google.com/search?q=PSA. RSA legifrance&client=t...

Proposed translations

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income support

PSA (Prime de Solidarité Active, income support)

"PSA" and "Prime de Solidarité Active" in italics.

Income support works for the UK, but I obviously don't know how it sounds to an American ear...I suppose it did what it said on the tin, it supported people's income.

Btw the way the benefit was paid on an annual basis, automatically, based on tax returns, that's why a few hundred euros can be considered fairly mean.


And funnily enough, UK Income Support has been rebranded too:

"You can no longer make a new claim for Income Support. If you’re on a low income and need help to cover your living costs, you can apply for Universal Credit instead."

https://www.gov.uk/income-support

Distinctly Orwellian!

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Note added at 19 hrs (2021-06-27 14:32:35 GMT)
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Sorry,

PSA (Prime de Solidarité Active, income support)

should have appeared in the answer line, that's my answer.

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Note added at 20 hrs (2021-06-27 15:12:19 GMT)
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"Un décret du 19 décembre 2008 crée la "***prime de solidarité active***" (PSA) d'un montant de ***200 euros***, promise par Nicolas Sarkozy dans son discours de Douai du 4 décembre consacré au plan de relance de l'économie française."

https://www.banquedesterritoires.fr/un-decret-instaure-la-pr...

Posted by Emmanuella in her post yesterday evening.

€200!!!

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Note added at 20 hrs (2021-06-27 15:15:14 GMT)
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More:

Prime de solidarité active - Bénéficiaireshttps://www.lagazettedescommunes.com › prime-de-soli...
4 mai 2009 — La prime de solidarité active (PSA) est une prestation exceptionnelle qui sera versée en une seule fois, en avril, par les caisses d'allocations ...

Décret n° 2008-1351 du 19 décembre 2008 instituant une ...https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr › jorf › JORFTEXT000...
Une prime de solidarité active d'un montant de 200 € est attribuée, de façon exceptionnelle, au cours du mois d'avril 2009 : 1° Aux allocataires, au titre des mois ...

La prime de solidarité active versée aujourd'hui - Le Figarohttps://www.lefigaro.fr › Finances perso
6 avr. 2009 — La prime de solidarité active versée aujourd'hui. D'un montant de 200 euros, elle concerne 4,1 millions de foyers modestes. Par Marie ...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Francois Boye : So, according to you, PSA is the same as any Income support distributed in France, This cannot be right!
37 minutes
I think I get your latest point, finally, bravo for your persistence/obstinance. Of course, any money a person gets off the French state could be defined as "income support". "Assistinat" ultimately fails. How do you like "Special Sarko Bonus"?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks for sifting through this one. I think I'll wait to see if any more info comes up before I add it to the glossary."
18 heures

PSA

PSA = Peugeot SA

https://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/psa-prime-d-un-million...

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Note added at 19 hrs (2021-06-27 14:15:11 GMT)
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Peugeot SA = Peugeot Inc

Peugeot is a French car company
Peer comment(s):
neutral Conor McAuley : Context relates to the CAF agency, not to Peugeot. / The attachment???
46 minutes
Pls read the attachment
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