Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

"under the Queen's peace"

Dutch translation:

onder omstandigheden waarin de openbare orde op normale wijze wordt gehandhaafd

Added to glossary by Willemina Hagenauw
Sep 9, 2004 12:18
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English term

"under the Queen's peace"

English to Dutch Law/Patents Law (general) criminal law
"Subject to these three exceptions the crime of murder is committed where a peson of sound mind and discretion unlawfully kills any reasonable creature in being and under the Queen's peace with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm."

"The person killed must be "under the Queen's peace". The inclusion of these words in the definition of murder is meant only to except from muder killing in the course of war and possibly rebellion."

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onder omstandigheden waarin de openbare orde op normale wijze wordt gehandhaafd

The Queen's peace (or King's peace, when a male is on the throne) is a concept of English Law and represents the peaceful, violence-free state that the realm should endure in at all times.

It is part of the duties of the Crown under the Royal Prerogative to maintain the Queen's peace. This function is now carried out by the Government, although it remains a duty of the Crown. Where the crown fails in this duty, it can be under a duty to pay compensation to the subjects that it has failed. This was the justification for the 18th Century Riot Act and subsequent legislation, counterparts of which appeared in countries throught the British Empire. Where the civil authorities declared that the Queen's peace had failed (i.e. there was a state of Riot) the rules changed: the authorities (either police, or the army or milita providing Military Aid to the Civil Power) could shoot and kill ringleaders of the riot, and generally take severe action towards those in a state of Riot. The counterbalance was that the Crown was responsible for the damage caused by the Riot - the Crown having failed in its prerogative duty to preserve the peace. Even today the criminal offence of Riot (now enshrined in an Act of Parliament) can only be prosecuted with the consent of the Attorney-General (i.e. the Queen's legal officer).

Historically, and in particularly before the foundation of the police and modern legal system the concept of the Queen's peace was much more important. Knights of the Peace were appointed in each shire and it was their duty to maintain the Queen's Peace. These Knights of the Peace later became known as Justices of the Peace or JP's, and subsequently as Magistrates. Paid magistrates are now called District Judges (Criminal), and are drawn from the ranks of local solicitors. Unpaid magistrates are volunteers from the community - the requirements are that they must be of clean character and local.

Police have a right to detain any person who is creating a 'breach of the peace'. This is not a criminal or civil offence - it exists as a legal oddity created by the Royal Prerogative. Persons so detained must be taken before a magistrate (i.e. a Justice of the Peace) who will 'bind them over' to keep the peace. Once so 'bound over' the person may not disturb the peace again for the appointed time. If they do so, they are liable to imprisonment. The police frequently use this power to break up difficult situations or minor fights - and often then detail someone for breach of the peace, take then round the corner, and once they are satisfied that the fight is over, let them go. Alternatively, if alcohol is part of the problem, the person can be held until he is sober enough to face the magistrate - which usually solves the problem, as for most citizens the prospect of sobering up in the police cell, and a stern talk from a bench of three magistrates while nursing a hang-over is sufficient to push the message home for a few days. Because breach of the peace is not a criminal offence, people so bound do not have a criminal record which can blight their future career.

The definition of murder in English Law is still a Common Law crime and is defined as The unlawful killing of a reasonable creature in being under the Queen's peace with malice aforethought. Lawful killing includes execution (before abolition of the death penalty) or being shot by the police while waving a gun around. A reasonable creature in being limits the offence to humans. The Queen's Peace excludes wars, and in times past could also be applied to riots. Malice aforethought covers the need for intent to kill or cause grevious bodily harm.



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to maintain the Queen\'s peace = de openbare orde handhaven
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agree FullCircle (X)
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agree Jacqueline van der Spek
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agree Kate Hudson (X)
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agree Robert Kleemaier : Nice little essay on the subject
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English term (edited): under the Queen's peace

in vredestijd

Van Dale geeft voor Queen's peace het equivalent King's peace met als vertaling 'openbare orde en veiligheid'. De combinatie met 'under' kan zijn in tijden van openbare orde en veiligheid, ofwel in vredestijd i.t.t. oorlogstijd?
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agree Evert DELOOF-SYS
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agree Anthony Michils
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agree Paula Cunningham
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disagree Sven Petersson : Van Dale is right, but the interpretation is faulty. Addendum: Please see Meturgan's answer!
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agree winterjasmij (X) : Mooie vertaling en 'to the point'. Zie voor mate van voorkomen m.b.t. strafrecht: http://www.google.nl/search?num=100&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&q=vredest... oorlogstijd strafrecht&btnG=Zoeken&lr= Een meer letterlijke vertaling lijkt me hier niet passend.
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English term (edited): under the Queen's peace

onder de rechtsorde van de Koningin plus voetnoot : "de Koningin als symbool voor het geldend recht"

My oath tells me that I am a keeper of the Queen's Peace in Australia. Het is een breder begrip dan openbare orde. Disturbance of the peace kan van alles zijn, zeker ook inbraak. Het recht wordt aangetast. Under the Queen's Peace: de overledene moet deel uit gemaakt hebben van Haar rechtsorde. Het is zelfs nog ruimer dan het rechtmatigheidsbegrip. De Queen als symbool voor het recht. Daarom zou ik kiezen voor onvertaald laten en een voetnoot plaatsen: "De Koninging als symbool voor hat geldend recht".
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