Jan 28 00:16
3 mos ago
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French term
United States
ATA-certified FR>EN freelance translator
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
chambre de compagnie
French to English
Other
Real Estate
This term appears in a real estate rental agreement listing the rooms of the house.
"Cette maison dispose de trois chambres dont:
Une chambre master
Une chambre de compagnie
Une chambre d'invites
Thanks for any help you can offer
"Cette maison dispose de trois chambres dont:
Une chambre master
Une chambre de compagnie
Une chambre d'invites
Thanks for any help you can offer
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | companions bedroom |
SafeTex
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| 1 +1 | options |
Bourth
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| 1 | salon / parlor |
Andrzej Ziomek
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Proposed translations
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2 days 4 hrs
Selected
companions bedroom
Although not really a term or concept we have in English, I've argued before for literal translations where they make some sense to the reader, who know that they are possibly reading a translation and/or about another country, and so understand that such a term as "companions bedroom" may be something that exists in that country
It also has the same structure as "master bedroom" and "guest bedroom" so it looks at home in this short list.
It also has the same structure as "master bedroom" and "guest bedroom" so it looks at home in this short list.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
AllegroTrans
: Not a bad solution, perhaps we need an apostrophe though
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Yes, or perhaps "companion bedroom"
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, SafeTex. Companion bedroom does seem to be the solution, though my other French resources concur that the use of this term here is unusual."
9 hrs
Andrzej Ziomek
Poland
Poland
Works in field
Poland
Jack of all trades Master of translation
Native in: Polish 
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English
salon / parlor
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or 'parlor room'
https://www.thespruce.com/what-is-a-parlor-room-7369909
Modern Uses of Parlor Rooms
Parlor rooms are ideal for socializing but are more formal in setup than other rooms where friends and family may gather, such as a living room, family room, or kitchen. While many gathering spaces in modern households are multifunctional and contain items such as televisions, desks, and workout equipment, parlor rooms should be kept relatively simple. Due their lack of a television, the parlor room shouldn't feature lounge-like furniture
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or 'parlor room'
https://www.thespruce.com/what-is-a-parlor-room-7369909
Modern Uses of Parlor Rooms
Parlor rooms are ideal for socializing but are more formal in setup than other rooms where friends and family may gather, such as a living room, family room, or kitchen. While many gathering spaces in modern households are multifunctional and contain items such as televisions, desks, and workout equipment, parlor rooms should be kept relatively simple. Due their lack of a television, the parlor room shouldn't feature lounge-like furniture
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: Your reference doesn't support your translation and this seems to be almost certainly a bedroom
4 days
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+1
9 hrs
options
It looks ambiguous, meaning both 'drawing/living room' and 'guest room'.
If the latter, as distinct from the chambre d'invités, I can only imagine it is a two-bedroom en suite : two bedrooms connected by a common bathroom (and potentially another connection), but as I say, that is pure imagination.
Given it's position between 'master bedroom' and 'guestroom', it would appear to be a bedroom rather than a reception room.
"Le tapis de Bruxelles est le tapis le plus recherche à partir des années 1820 de sorte qu'on le place généralement dans le grand salon (drawing room ou chambre de compagnie) mais il en est d'autres [… ] Une des chambres à coucher est souvent réservée à la parenté ou aux relations; le hall d'entrée (corridor) et la chambre de compagnie (living room) viennent répondre à un courant européen déjà bien ancré dans les coutumes qui veut qu'on distingue les activités sociales et mondaines des autres activités plus quotidiennes de la maison"
https://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/p/2005/library_archives_can...
"Chambre de compagnée :— Chambre-à-coucher réservée aux visiteurs, ou encore le salon, la plus belle pièce d’une habitation.
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k50501q/texteBrut
"Les chanoines disposent sans nul doute depuis longtemps de pièces de réception, mais l’emploi du terme « salon » traduit des différences spatiales et chronologiques.
Peu usité à Rennes – on y préfère celui de salle ou de chambre de compagnie –, il est d’usage courant à Nantes et Saint-Pol-de-Léon. Les chanoines léonards et rennais décédés avant le milieu du siècle n’en disposent habituellement pas, contrairement à leurs confrères nantais."
https://books.openedition.org/pur/17435?lang=en
So if it's not a generic chambre d'amis (amis plural) or a salon, maybe it's a chambre d'ami(e) plus plus plus (ami(e) singular, unless one is particularly energetic). Or maybe even a fully fitted sex dungeon …. ;-)
So several options, of which the most important has to be 'ask the customer'.
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If the house is designed or has been adapted for the elderly or the disabled, or wealthy widows with dames de compagnie, maybe it's a 'companion room' is provided in care/retirement homes, and in an NZ motel.
"We have three different types of room: companion rooms, single rooms and private suites."
https://www.beechhillgrange.co.uk/staying-here/
PML agree to allocate and the Resident accepts the use of accommodation in a single or companion bedroom in the Home from the date of admission
https://www.pennsmount.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/
Accessible Unit designed for convenient bathroom and kitchen use. Companion bedroom for caregiver.
https://hamiltonmotel.co.nz/room/sams-room-2/
It's possible that such a room is near the master bedroom while guest rooms are further away.
If the latter, as distinct from the chambre d'invités, I can only imagine it is a two-bedroom en suite : two bedrooms connected by a common bathroom (and potentially another connection), but as I say, that is pure imagination.
Given it's position between 'master bedroom' and 'guestroom', it would appear to be a bedroom rather than a reception room.
"Le tapis de Bruxelles est le tapis le plus recherche à partir des années 1820 de sorte qu'on le place généralement dans le grand salon (drawing room ou chambre de compagnie) mais il en est d'autres [… ] Une des chambres à coucher est souvent réservée à la parenté ou aux relations; le hall d'entrée (corridor) et la chambre de compagnie (living room) viennent répondre à un courant européen déjà bien ancré dans les coutumes qui veut qu'on distingue les activités sociales et mondaines des autres activités plus quotidiennes de la maison"
https://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/p/2005/library_archives_can...
"Chambre de compagnée :— Chambre-à-coucher réservée aux visiteurs, ou encore le salon, la plus belle pièce d’une habitation.
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k50501q/texteBrut
"Les chanoines disposent sans nul doute depuis longtemps de pièces de réception, mais l’emploi du terme « salon » traduit des différences spatiales et chronologiques.
Peu usité à Rennes – on y préfère celui de salle ou de chambre de compagnie –, il est d’usage courant à Nantes et Saint-Pol-de-Léon. Les chanoines léonards et rennais décédés avant le milieu du siècle n’en disposent habituellement pas, contrairement à leurs confrères nantais."
https://books.openedition.org/pur/17435?lang=en
So if it's not a generic chambre d'amis (amis plural) or a salon, maybe it's a chambre d'ami(e) plus plus plus (ami(e) singular, unless one is particularly energetic). Or maybe even a fully fitted sex dungeon …. ;-)
So several options, of which the most important has to be 'ask the customer'.
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2024-01-29 01:46:53 GMT)
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If the house is designed or has been adapted for the elderly or the disabled, or wealthy widows with dames de compagnie, maybe it's a 'companion room' is provided in care/retirement homes, and in an NZ motel.
"We have three different types of room: companion rooms, single rooms and private suites."
https://www.beechhillgrange.co.uk/staying-here/
PML agree to allocate and the Resident accepts the use of accommodation in a single or companion bedroom in the Home from the date of admission
https://www.pennsmount.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/
Accessible Unit designed for convenient bathroom and kitchen use. Companion bedroom for caregiver.
https://hamiltonmotel.co.nz/room/sams-room-2/
It's possible that such a room is near the master bedroom while guest rooms are further away.
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: Asker is in the US so living room works best. You have covered all bases and your final option definitely applies here
1 hr
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: ambiguous indeed it is, my gut feeling is that this is one of three bedrooms // Some evidence such as an answer to my question posed to the Asker might allow us cops to move forward and to make an arrest
4 hrs
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Should we work on gut feeling (like TV cops)?
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| neutral |
philgoddard
: I think you've muddied the waters by suggesting it might not be a bedroom. I believe it is one.
5 hrs
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Should we work on gut feeling (like TV cops)?
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Discussion
https://www.google.com/search?q="en suite closet"&oq="en sui...
Une chambre master situee au premier etage d'une superficie de 130m2 incluant deux salles de bain ainsi que deux dressings puis une terrasse vue mer de 30m2
Un chambre de compagnie de 30m2 egalement situee au premier etage
Une chambre d'invites de 60m2 situee au rez-de-chaussee avec un acces direct au jardin
Based on the discussion, I'm I'm tempted to go with something along the lines of en suite sitting room
https://www.google.com/search?q="small adjacent living room"...
Here's another example:
Au premier étage vous apprécierez le romantisme de la chambre de COMPAGNIE et l'esprit authentique de la chambre à MONSIEUR. Elles sont équipées chacune de lit 160 cm - salle de bain avec douche spacieuse et toilettes indépendants.
http://www.chambresdhotes.org/Detailed/8026.html