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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

condensat de signalement

English translation:

fingerprint; hash

Added to glossary by Bashiqa
Oct 5, 2023 12:34
7 mos ago
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French term

condensat de signalement

French to English Medical Medical (general) Error report
Context:
An error report and this heading is followed by long alpha-numeric string.
My own idea would be Condensed report.
Confirmation or otherwise would be appreciated.
TIA Chris.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 fingerprint; hash
3 -1 history of error report
References
summart/digest
Change log

Oct 5, 2023 12:39: Yassine El Bouknify changed "Language pair" from "French to English" to "English to French"

Oct 5, 2023 12:40: Yassine El Bouknify changed "Language pair" from "English to French" to "French to English"

Discussion

Bashiqa (asker) Oct 9, 2023:
@ Daryo Thanks for the correction.
Daryo Oct 9, 2023:
BTW A1EE1F43928F99EE27FE0739A3A97E789CCF5D1A37DE3AF80AD84227E1A3FF65

is not an alphanumerical string - it's a hexadecimal number.
Bashiqa (asker) Oct 6, 2023:
@ Bourth I came across that pretty picture yesterday so with Samuel`s comment and yours "Hash" would be a distinct possibility As the text had to be delivered yesterday I opted for "Summary" I`ll let the client know and see if I get any feedback Thank you, Chris
Bourth Oct 5, 2023:
(message) digest 'Digest' (something condensed, or short, unlike the intestinal tract) looks to me like a more logico-reasonable translation of condensat (something condensed) than other proposals seen here so far.
"Une fonction de hachage (parfois appelée fonction de condensation) est une fonction permettant d'obtenir un condensé (appelé aussi condensat ou haché ou en anglais message digest) d'un texte, c'est-à-dire une suite de caractères assez courte représentant le texte qu'il condense"
https://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~lafaye/CCM/crypto/signature.h...

Though it seems 'hash' also works:
En ayant le condensât ( " hash " ou " checksum ", ou " message digest ") il doit très difficile de retrouver les données initiales,
https://www.cryptosec.org/?Fonctions-de-condensation

Nearly forgot the pretty picture:
Samuël Buysschaert Oct 5, 2023:
@Bashiqa Thanks for the string with 64 characters if i counted that right :),
indeed that looks like an hash value and with the context provided, my best guess then would be "hash ...", there are other ways to name it, but that would be what i'd use as it is pretty common and concise. //
Bashiqa (asker) Oct 5, 2023:
@ Samuel This is the string: A1EE1F43928F99EE27FE0739A3A97E789CCF5D1A37DE3AF80AD84227E1A3FF65
so cryptography might have something to do with it.
Samuël Buysschaert Oct 5, 2023:
I'm thinking more like "condensat" as used in cryptography some kind of "hash code/value" that would explain the long alpha-numeric string.
Emmanuella Oct 5, 2023:
Voir n.3
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie9/condensat
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensat
Renate Radziwill-Rall Oct 5, 2023:
"condensé" would be the term probably a machine translation
Bashiqa (asker) Oct 5, 2023:
@ Sue Medication error report. An error on the packaging.
Sue Davis Oct 5, 2023:
What is the subject area?

Proposed translations

+3
2 hrs
Selected

fingerprint; hash

I've seen both

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...of the report

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Another valid possibility is "message digest" proposed by Bourth (but not just "digest"), especially in connection with RIPEMD-160 and now-obsolete MD5 hash functions, in which MD stands for "message digest" indeed.
Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprint_(computing)

Peer comment(s):
agree Samuël Buysschaert
9 mins
Thanks
agree Johannes Gleim : Looks like a fingerprint, depending on the origin and the purpose
3 hrs
Thanks
agree Daryo : A distinct possibility - confirmed by the actual value of this "condensat de signalement"
16 hrs
Thanks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you"
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1 hr

history of error report

Error Reporting and Disclosure - Patient Safety and Quality
National Institutes of Health (.gov)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NB...
de ZR Wolf · 2008 · Cité 229 fois — Background. This chapter examines reporting of health care errors (e.g., verbal, written, or other form of communication and/or recording of near miss and ...
‎Background · ‎Research Evidence · ‎Evidence-Based Practice...

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Medical device incident reporting & investigation scheme ...
Therapeutic Goods Administration
https://www.tga.gov.au › guidance
30 oct. 2019 — Medical Device Problem Reporting for the Betterment of Healthcare, Health Devices, Vol 27 No 8, August 1998, pp277-292. Kohn L, Corrigan J, ...
Peer comment(s):
disagree Daryo : That would the human readable file - "condensat de signalement" would be the hash of that digital file, a meaningless hexadecimal number - kind of "checksum" used to verify the integrity of the file - not the same.
3 days 9 hrs
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Reference comments

53 mins
Reference:

summart/digest

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summary
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Bourth : It seems all of hash, checksum, and message digest are said.
8 hrs
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