Dec 14, 2022 12:55
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French term
propriété du dessus
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Pleadings in dispute over use of a garage on a plot of land. Mme BBB's title-deed says she's allowed to use this despite it being on M. AAA's plot. M. AAA has a terrace which extends over the top of this garage.
"La première branche, tirée d’une violation de l’article 552 du code civil, a trait à la portée des titres sur lesquels s’est fondée la cour d’appel pour reconnaître l’existence d’un droit de superficie, par renversement de la présomption de propriété du dessus établie au profit du propriétaire du sol."
"Alors que la propriété du sol emporte la propriété du dessus et du dessous ;
que la présomption de propriété du dessus au profit du propriétaire du sol n’est susceptible d’être combattue que par la preuve contraire résultant d’un titre ou de la prescription ;"
"Alors que M. AAA faisait notamment valoir que l’existence d’un droit de superficie conférant à Mme BBB la propriété du dessus de la surface d’emprise du garage bâti sur la parcelle KH n° 149 était incompatible avec la configuration des lieux, dès lors que ce garage était surmonté d’une terrasse dont il était propriétaire et que cette terrasse n’était aucunement revendiquée par Mme BBB (concl. d’appel p. 4) ;"
I've tentatively put "ownership of what is above" / "ownership of what is below". Quite possibly total rubbish. This text also contains the word sursol (entry in the archives), which I've tentatively put as "volume over the ground" :
« Compte tenu de la configuration des lieux, si l’intimée bénéficiait d’un droit de superficie sur le garage, Monsieur AAA serait uniquement propriétaire du tréfonds sous le garage, et Madame BBB serait propriétaire du sursol, c’est-à-dire du garage et de la terrasse au-dessus.
"La première branche, tirée d’une violation de l’article 552 du code civil, a trait à la portée des titres sur lesquels s’est fondée la cour d’appel pour reconnaître l’existence d’un droit de superficie, par renversement de la présomption de propriété du dessus établie au profit du propriétaire du sol."
"Alors que la propriété du sol emporte la propriété du dessus et du dessous ;
que la présomption de propriété du dessus au profit du propriétaire du sol n’est susceptible d’être combattue que par la preuve contraire résultant d’un titre ou de la prescription ;"
"Alors que M. AAA faisait notamment valoir que l’existence d’un droit de superficie conférant à Mme BBB la propriété du dessus de la surface d’emprise du garage bâti sur la parcelle KH n° 149 était incompatible avec la configuration des lieux, dès lors que ce garage était surmonté d’une terrasse dont il était propriétaire et que cette terrasse n’était aucunement revendiquée par Mme BBB (concl. d’appel p. 4) ;"
I've tentatively put "ownership of what is above" / "ownership of what is below". Quite possibly total rubbish. This text also contains the word sursol (entry in the archives), which I've tentatively put as "volume over the ground" :
« Compte tenu de la configuration des lieux, si l’intimée bénéficiait d’un droit de superficie sur le garage, Monsieur AAA serait uniquement propriétaire du tréfonds sous le garage, et Madame BBB serait propriétaire du sursol, c’est-à-dire du garage et de la terrasse au-dessus.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | rights above (the surface of) land / air rights |
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| 3 | ownership of the upper part/level |
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rights above (the surface of) land / air rights
"Selon le code civil, la propriété du terrain emporte la propriété du dessus et du dessous. En d'autres termes, lorsqu'une maison est construite sur un terrain, elle appartient au propriétaire du terrain"
"RIGHTS ABOVE AND BELOW THE SURFACE OF LAND
Historically it was considered that the land owner owned everything above and below the surface of the land. Cuius est solum eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos was said to apply - meaning whoever owns the soil owns everything up to the heavens and down to the depths of the earth. This, however, is no longer strictly the case and there is no absolute right in respect of the airspace above the land and things below the surface of the land.
Rights above the land
A landowner owns the airspace above his land and may bring an action for trespass against an intruder or where another places an object which projects into their airspace:
[...]
The right to airspace above land is restricted to such a height as is reasonably necessary for the ordinary use and enjoyment of his land and the structure upon it:
[...]
Rights below the surface of the land
Right to spaces below the surface
Man made and natural spaces below land are capable of ownership. The space belongs to the owner of the surface of the land even if it was created by another and the landowner has no access:"
http://e-lawresources.co.uk/Land/Rights-above-and-below-surf...
"In modern law, this principle [Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos (Latin for "whoever's is the soil, it is theirs all the way to Heaven and all the way to Hell")] is still accepted in limited form; the rights are divided into AIR RIGHTS above and SUBSURFACE RIGHTS below. Property title includes to the space immediately above and below the ground – preventing overhanging parts of neighboring buildings – but do not have rights to control flights far above the ground or in space. In dense urban areas, air rights may be transferable (see transferable development rights) to allow construction of new buildings over existing buildings."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_est_solum,_eius_est_usqu...
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-12-14 14:51:16 GMT)
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You say " the "dessous" variety might possibly be "subsurface rights"...": see 6 lines supra.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2022-12-14 15:26:13 GMT)
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I love the idea that by owning land, mine is all the way to Heaven and all the way to Hell. It's good to have those options.
"RIGHTS ABOVE AND BELOW THE SURFACE OF LAND
Historically it was considered that the land owner owned everything above and below the surface of the land. Cuius est solum eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos was said to apply - meaning whoever owns the soil owns everything up to the heavens and down to the depths of the earth. This, however, is no longer strictly the case and there is no absolute right in respect of the airspace above the land and things below the surface of the land.
Rights above the land
A landowner owns the airspace above his land and may bring an action for trespass against an intruder or where another places an object which projects into their airspace:
[...]
The right to airspace above land is restricted to such a height as is reasonably necessary for the ordinary use and enjoyment of his land and the structure upon it:
[...]
Rights below the surface of the land
Right to spaces below the surface
Man made and natural spaces below land are capable of ownership. The space belongs to the owner of the surface of the land even if it was created by another and the landowner has no access:"
http://e-lawresources.co.uk/Land/Rights-above-and-below-surf...
"In modern law, this principle [Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos (Latin for "whoever's is the soil, it is theirs all the way to Heaven and all the way to Hell")] is still accepted in limited form; the rights are divided into AIR RIGHTS above and SUBSURFACE RIGHTS below. Property title includes to the space immediately above and below the ground – preventing overhanging parts of neighboring buildings – but do not have rights to control flights far above the ground or in space. In dense urban areas, air rights may be transferable (see transferable development rights) to allow construction of new buildings over existing buildings."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_est_solum,_eius_est_usqu...
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Note added at 1 hr (2022-12-14 14:51:16 GMT)
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You say " the "dessous" variety might possibly be "subsurface rights"...": see 6 lines supra.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2022-12-14 15:26:13 GMT)
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I love the idea that by owning land, mine is all the way to Heaven and all the way to Hell. It's good to have those options.
Note from asker:
| Thanks. "Air rights" looks pretty good. A quick search also suggests the "dessous" variety might possibly be "subsurface rights"... |
| ... oh, which you also put. Apologies. |
| Yes, of course for Accursius (alleged to have invented the phrase according to Wikip), writing in the 13th C, I assume this virtual column will have had a finite height above ... and finite depth below. |
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