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Aug 12, 2022 14:50
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Spanish term

Hecho de los mexicanos

Spanish to English Marketing Idioms / Maxims / Sayings US SPANISH
I've asked to translate the hashtag #HechoDeLosMexicanos, used by the Mexican National Team (soccer.)

Any Mexicans in da house?

I have no idea of what that means. I direct translation would be "made from Mexicans." I suspect it means "made by Mexicans" but I must be sure.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 Made of Mexicans
2 +2 Mexican through and through
3 +1 Mexican achievement/success
4 with the Mexicans' original touch
3 Born and Bred In Mexico

Discussion

George Rabel (asker) Aug 24, 2022:
@abe(L)solano I appreciate the reference. If I had opted for using the literal translation, I could have used it to justify my choice.
abe(L)solano Aug 18, 2022:
although you've closed the question, Y hubo mucha polémica, el hashtag hace referencia a los hechos históricos, las victorias, logros mexicanos, comparando los partidos ganados (o a darlo todo en la cancha, aunque no se gane) de las selecciones mexicanas (varonil, femenil y todas las 'subs') con un "hecho/evento" COMPARTIDO a nivel nacional. Ese es el sentido. Por eso "Hecho De Los Mexicanos" = pertenencia histórica (ojo cómo están puestas las mayúsculas), aunque en mi opinión la expresión en español resulta bastante pobre (pero eso fue lo que se les ocurrió!) Ver link en respuesta de Jane Martin. https://twitter.com/miseleccionmx?lang=es
George Rabel (asker) Aug 16, 2022:
Made by Mexicans I opted for "Made by Mexicans" with a note saying that a literal translation would not work. Thanks to all.
AllegroTrans Aug 14, 2022:
Made of Mexicans... ...the Mexican national soccer team. What explanation is needed?
Barbara Cochran, MFA Aug 13, 2022:
End of? If this was my client, I would offer at least some detail or short explanation to help her or him understand what's behind the idea that is being expressed to promote the team in question, rather than just resort to literalness.
AllegroTrans Aug 13, 2022:
@ Barbara Unless I am mistaken, George is not looking for a creative hashtag for use by the soccer team, simply a functional translation. He has already said the translation is not for publication, but just for some non Spanish native-speaking client to understand. End of.
Barbara Cochran, MFA Aug 13, 2022:
Interesting Article On Hashtags Goes into detail about using them for business (like a sports team) promotion, and how it is important to avoid creating ones that are overly vague or general: https://techjury.net/blog/what-is-hashtag/#gref
Barbara Cochran, MFA Aug 13, 2022:
Don't Agree With AT The branding of sports teams is very important to their owners, who make billions off the athletic prowess of professional team members. Therefore, I would go for a creative solution, and not the literal one, which, IMO, would not generate much interest on the part of ticket-purchasing fans.
AllegroTrans Aug 13, 2022:
So IMO All you need is a literal translation. Some more fanciful suggestions have been put forward but the purpose of the translation isn't to copywrite a new English hashtag for the Mexican national soccer team.
George Rabel (asker) Aug 12, 2022:
@AllegroTrans I agree. It is not really a translation that is going to be published. It is intended for the client's reviewers who do not understand Spanish but want to know what's being said.
AllegroTrans Aug 12, 2022:
Translate a hashtag... and it is no longer a hashtag. If this is in a document for translation you should leave it unaltered. A translation purely "for understanding" is OK of course, but that needs to be made clear
Juan Jacob Aug 12, 2022:
Strange... ..."hecho" also could mean "fact"... no idea. We'll wait.

Proposed translations

+2
18 mins

Made of Mexicans

You will also find "made from Mexicans" but that sounds more like a cannibal's taco.

LOOK: Mexican national team unveils a new logo for ...https://www.cbssports.com › soccer › news › look-mexi.
The Mexican Football Federation has unveiled a new logo that will be used as the new badge for the men's and women's national teams. Presented along with the new slogan, "Made of Mexicans," the new logo aims to bring Mexican soccer into the modern age while also adapting the image of their national team. The shift in identity is needed as Mexican soccer has been under scrutiny as of late for unsavory chants as opposed to their play on the field.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Juan Jacob : OK, the slogan, but waht about the #?
5 mins
Was it in the question?
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, but a hashtag cannot be translated - it will no longer work as a hashtag if it is! But I agree on a literal translation - no need to get poetic.
1 hr
Quite! Thanks!
neutral philgoddard : But why does it say LOS Mexicanos?
3 hrs
agree Marina56 : ok
3 hrs
Thank you!
neutral abe(L)solano : no. Precisamente fue una mala traducción del hashtag la de la página de CBS sports. Se refiere a los "hechos históricos" mexicanos; compara los éxitos de las selecciones masculina, femenina y subs con ese tipo de eventos.
5 days
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+2
28 mins

Mexican through and through

Sorry George I am not Mexican and am putting a low confidence level on this but I think it sounds better than a direct translation.

This is the thinking behind the phrase:

“La nueva imagen de nuestra Selección está hecha de la misma pasión con la que sales a trabajar todos los días, de tus sueños, del orgullo con el que representas a tu país, de la solidaridad, la fortaleza ante la adversidad y el futuro que construimos juntos; de nuestra cultura y tradiciones que mantenemos vivas, de las muestras de amor y las gargantas que cantan el cielito lindo. Está hecha de la historia que nos recuerda quienes somos y de dónde venimos y nos compromete con el futuro hacia el que nos dirigimos: está hecha de ti y de la pasión por nuestro país y el fútbol. Este es un símbolo Hecho de los Mexicanos”, reza el video de lanzamiento
https://www.yodeportes.com/2021/12/lo-que-significa-el-nuevo...

Let's wait for some Mexican football supporters.....

Peer comment(s):
agree Andrew Bramhall : I like it!
2 days 16 hrs
agree abe(L)solano : Yes, thanks for the research - although proposed & used by the Federación Mexicana de Futbol, I think the hashtag doesn't sound well in Spanish and also doesn't make sense https://twitter.com/miseleccionmx?lang=es
5 days
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49 mins

Born and Bred In Mexico

Meaning that the members of the team are, although I suppose it's possible that one or more of them have not been. Kind of reminds me of Bruce Springsteen's classic American chauvinist tune, "Born in the USA".

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Note added at 50 mins (2022-08-12 15:41:20 GMT)
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"bred", in this case, would mean brought up in a way that makes one turn out to be strong and powerful

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Note added at 52 mins (2022-08-12 15:43:19 GMT)
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Sorry, the "I" should be lower case.
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+1
2 hrs

Mexican achievement/success

my take
Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : You have not translated "hecho"
2 days 3 hrs
agree abe(L)solano : that's what the FMF wants to convey (very poorly with such hashtag, in my opinion, but yes!)
5 days
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16 hrs

with the Mexicans' original touch

... of the ball

'Any Mexicans in da house?..' Exceptionally, Mexico is not one of my countries, so I cannot add '.. en mi país (originario o adoptivo de gringo)...'

Let us pray that the Mexican national soccer team is not again overshadowed by the Colombian and Uruguyan Latin American teams in general, nor Argenina or Brazil in particular.

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Note added at 16 hrs (2022-08-13 07:12:43 GMT)
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nor Argentina ...
Example sentence:

The golden touch ball definitely challenges the players, and when used properly can improve their understanding and execution of their first touch. .

Reference:

http://emprendedor.com/hecho-en-mexico-productos-que-crees-que-son-mexicanos-pero-no-lo-son/

Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : Not a copyriting question
1 day 13 hrs
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