Nov 24, 2021 13:21
2 yrs ago
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French term
calcul de paie à l’envers
French to English
Bus/Financial
Accounting
Engagement letter offering "Solution paie & RH". The letter states that it is a contract.
Much is about payroll.
"2.3.
Nature des travaux à mettre en œuvre
Nos travaux consisteront notamment à :
...
2.3.4.
Les prestations d’assistance et de conseil social convenues
Simulation de bulletins de paie, calcul de paie à l’envers,
Fourniture de l’OD de paie (générale ou analytique), selon plan comptable à définir."
I think it is fairly likely that this means running the payroll operation back from the results to find out whether you get the original input data. But maybe not.
Much is about payroll.
"2.3.
Nature des travaux à mettre en œuvre
Nos travaux consisteront notamment à :
...
2.3.4.
Les prestations d’assistance et de conseil social convenues
Simulation de bulletins de paie, calcul de paie à l’envers,
Fourniture de l’OD de paie (générale ou analytique), selon plan comptable à définir."
I think it is fairly likely that this means running the payroll operation back from the results to find out whether you get the original input data. But maybe not.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | Reverse payroll calculation |
Rob Grayson
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| 2 | Gross salary calculation |
SafeTex
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Proposed translations
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Reverse payroll calculation
Not something I've ever come across, but then I'm neither an accountant nor a payroll clerk. A Google search for this term comes up with more than a handful of hits… and I struggle to see what else it might mean.
A search for "paie à l'envers" yields plenty of hits, for example https://www.ghs.fr/support/aide/17189640/Calcul_de_paies_a_l... This at least illustrates the practical uses to which such a calculation might be put.
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Note added at 53 mins (2021-11-24 14:14:29 GMT)
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Note to asker: I studied accounting as part of my degree in financial services and have dabbled in it on and off over the years, both during my time in banking and subsequently as a translator. That you assumed I'd been an accountant is, I assume, testament to either my ability to pull the wool or yours to have it pulled! ;)
A search for "paie à l'envers" yields plenty of hits, for example https://www.ghs.fr/support/aide/17189640/Calcul_de_paies_a_l... This at least illustrates the practical uses to which such a calculation might be put.
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Note added at 53 mins (2021-11-24 14:14:29 GMT)
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Note to asker: I studied accounting as part of my degree in financial services and have dabbled in it on and off over the years, both during my time in banking and subsequently as a translator. That you assumed I'd been an accountant is, I assume, testament to either my ability to pull the wool or yours to have it pulled! ;)
Note from asker:
| Thanks. Ah I thought you were or had been an accountant or something similar. Regardless, you are "go to" person (as kids and others say these days) for this stuff! |
| Wool successfully pulled, bravo. Translating is always hustling, not only in the sense that clients will always be throwing you stuff that is more or less out of your comfort zone, but more generally in that we're pretending to the trusting client that this is an English (or target) document when it is nothing of the sort. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: I think your reference explains it clearly. If they know what someone's net pay is, they can extrapolate the gross figure. I think this would need a few words of explanation, as a literal translation doesn't really help.
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| neutral |
SafeTex
: I'm not sure. The English hits seem to be more about correctling errors whereas the French definition is more about reconstituting the salary and social contirubtions based on limited info. But I'm not able to offer an alternative translation
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My hunch is that there is no standard EN term; perhaps the practice in question is more of a "thing" in France than it is in Angloland. In which case, Phil G's suggestion of inserting a brief gloss explaining what it is might be worth considering.
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Daryo
: "Reverse" makes perfect sense. as it amounts to the salary calculation being done "in reverse order".
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Gross salary calculation
Hello
My research showed that "reverse payroll calculation" seems to be when software is used to rollback a salary payment made in error or for the wrong amount rather than what Mpoma (asker) thinks it means
"I think it is fairly likely that this means running the payroll operation back from the results to find out whether you get the original input data. But maybe not."
IF it is this, then it's "gross salary calculation" according to multiple hits
My research showed that "reverse payroll calculation" seems to be when software is used to rollback a salary payment made in error or for the wrong amount rather than what Mpoma (asker) thinks it means
"I think it is fairly likely that this means running the payroll operation back from the results to find out whether you get the original input data. But maybe not."
IF it is this, then it's "gross salary calculation" according to multiple hits
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: your alternative suffers from exactly the same problem you tried to avoid - to a much bigger degree!!! OTOH the whole of "Net To Gross Salary Calculation" might work.
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