Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

rechazar

English translation:

ignore "rechazar" /is not considered a safe port/is not considered a safe port for migrants to

Added to glossary by liz askew
Sep 2, 2020 18:16
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Spanish term

rechazar

Spanish to English Other Government / Politics Political extract
Hello

The text is about the general political and social situation in the Covid-19 period and is written from a left-wing perspective. The sentence in question talks about the migrant crisis and the increasing number of sinkings of migrant boats in the Mediterranean. It goes on to refer to the "chaos" in Libya, "tierra que no puede de ninguna manera considerarse puerto seguro para rechazar las personas migrantes."

Thanks for your suggestions.

Mark
Change log

Sep 22, 2020 10:49: liz askew Created KOG entry

Discussion

Robert Carter Sep 5, 2020:
Seems to me that "take to" and "disembark" are functionally equivalent, and that it's hard to argue that either term is in any way equivalent to "rechazar".
But I agree with you about "push back", that definitely works, and you're probably right that it was what "rechazar" was an attempt (failed, IMO) at translating.
Incidentally, by "just" I meant "only" (i.e., your suggestion is only a synonym); had nothing to do with the timing of your posting (why would that be an issue?).
Lester Tattersall Sep 4, 2020:
No, Robert, I haven't 'just' posted an answer - that was a couple of days ago.
And I don't see it as ignoring the word "rechazar", as 'take... to' is the verb that corresponds to the 'rechazar'.
In any case, I now see that someone has now suggested 'push back' which clearly seems to be the "in" term, and "rechazar" comes from that, almost certainly.
Robert Carter Sep 4, 2020:
@Lester In your answer you've just used a synonym of what Liz is suggesting, essentially ignoring the word "rechazar", so I'm puzzled as to why you've disagreed with her one.
Lester Tattersall Sep 4, 2020:

Migration, Human Rights and Security in Europe - UCL ...
www.geog.ucl.ac.uk › migration-research-unit › pdfs
because of increased EU push-back measures, asylum seekers and refugees seeking to transit through. Libya to Europe are forced to make increasingly covert ...
by MRU Student

Interior justifica las 'devoluciones en caliente' | España | EL PAÍS
elpais.com › España

27 Jul 2018 - Un grupo de inmigrantes subsaharianos que lograron este jueves ... a las medidas de rechazo de extranjeros en la valla de Ceuta y Melilla, ...

liz askew Sep 3, 2020:

Southern mayors defy Italian coalition to offer safe port to ...www.theguardian.com › world › jun › italy-shuts-ports...
10 Jun 2018 - Southern mayors defy Italian coalition to offer safe port to migrants. This article is more than 2 years old. Palermo mayor offers to open port to ...
liz askew Sep 3, 2020:
Examples of "safe port":

Malta asks the EU to recognise Libya as a safe port - Statewatchwww.statewatch.org › news › april › malta-asks-the-eu-...
27 Apr 2020 - ... shipwrecked migrants to Libyan prison camps, there is a deliberate plan to obtain money from the EU and have Libya declared a "safe port".".

UN agency calls for new safe harbour rules for migrants from ...www.euractiv.com › justice-home-affairs › news › un-a...
19 Feb 2020 - ... community to devise a "safe disembarkation mechanism" for migrants fleeing Libya, the day after a port in the capital of the war-torn country ...

EU financial support for Libya coastguard under scrutinyeuobserver.com › migration
29 Apr 2020 - Libyan detention centres now hold around 1,500 people - down from ... it currently stands in Libya, Libya cannot be considered as a safe port ...
Chema Nieto Castañón Sep 3, 2020:
Agree with phil and Robert; (this land) cannot be relied upon as a safe haven for migrants.
And yet, rechazar might be a reference to "send"; (not a safe port) where to send migrants (rescued at sea), which might make sense in this case.
Anyhow, it is true that the Spanish rendering sounds quite weird with "rechazar".
Taña Dalglish Sep 2, 2020:
@ Mark/Liz https://www.europapress.es/internacional/noticia-acnur-dice-... What the report says:
ACNUR dice que "Libia no es un puerto seguro" para los migrantes rescatados o interceptados en el Mediterráneo.

El Alto Comisionado de Naciones Unidas para los Refugiados (ACNUR) ha recalcado este viernes que "Libia no es un puerto seguro" para el desembarco de migrantes interceptados o rescatados en el mar Mediterráneo, ante el deterioro de seguridad en el país africano.
Robert Carter Sep 2, 2020:
Yes Phil, I'd say you're right, unless the preceding text is talking about say Tripoli, Benghazi, etc.
philgoddard Sep 2, 2020:
"Safe port" is confusing Libya is a country, not a port. It's "safe haven".
Mark Radcliffe (asker) Sep 2, 2020:
Hi Liz - no I am not sure the source is correct - I suspect it is poorly drafted. Thanks for your help with this.
liz askew Sep 2, 2020:
Just to repeat, I can find no examples of your phrase online.
When was this written?

liz askew Sep 2, 2020:
Are you sure the source is correct?
See:


Boletín PRMH MAYO 2020 - Nadie sin Futurowww.nadiesinfuturo.org › IMG › pdf
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13 May 2020 - Cierre de puertos y frenos para el rescate en el mar . ... La OIM sigue insistiendo en que ***Libia no puede considerarse un puerto seguro para el desembarco de migrantes****, especialmente porque los cierres de fronteras ... personas entre los diferentes países de la UE. ... benefician de ninguna ayuda.

Proposed translations

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ignore "rechazar" /is not considered a safe port/is not considered a safe port for migrants to

disembark migrants/the migrants















Italy: Halt Abusive Migration Cooperation with Libya | Human ...www.hrw.org › news › 2020/02/12 › italy-halt-abusive...
12 Feb 2020 - In a mid-January report on the activities of the UN Support Mission in Libya (UNSMIL), the UN Secretary-General reiterated that Libya is not a safe port and urged all member countries to “revisit policies that support the return of refugees and migrants.” The Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights called on ...

98 migrants returned to Libya after being rescued by ...www.infomigrants.net › Top stories › News
28 May 2020 - 98 Europe-bound migrants who were rescued by a commercial ship ... the country is not considered a "safe port" by international organizations.

Libya: Refugees and migrants refuse to disembark ship in ...www.amnesty.org › latest › news › 2018/11 › libya-ref...
16 Nov 2018 - The refugees and migrants, including a number of children, were ... law, given that Libya cannot be considered a safe place to disembark.

98 migrants returned to Libya after being rescued by ...www.infomigrants.net › Top stories › News
28 May 2020 - 98 Europe-bound migrants who were rescued by a commercial ship ... who were returned to Libya by a commercial ship have now disembarked. ... that the country is not considered a "safe port" by international organizations.

Intercepted and returned to Libya: A common fate of Europe ...www.infomigrants.net › Top stories › News
29 Jun 2020 - Nearly 500 migrants have been returned to Libya in recent days, ...

Italian government's orders not to enter port and disembark the migrants on board ... Rackete, quoted by dpa, called Frontex the enforce of a "racist border policy of ... We reiterate that Libya is not a port of safety. pic.twitter.com/5B3aA30SPR.

Libya: migrants refusing to disembark ship must not be forced ...www.amnesty.org.uk › press-releases › libya-migrants-r...
16 Nov 2018 - At least 79 refugees and migrants in Misratah port at risk of torture if ... law given that Libya cannot be considered a safe place to disembark.
Peer comment(s):

agree Robert Carter : Well researched. Looks like the source has been cribbed (poorly). If it's talking about migrants fromLibya, then I think the idea is "to return them to".
6 mins
neutral Graciela Silvia Parma : So, what is the difference between "reject" and "not allow in"? It is a matter of words, and to say one thing, reject is not best option, I will include "refuse to let in" for instance. My opinion, not to open a discussion, really.
22 mins
agree Muriel Vasconcellos
2 hrs
agree Victoria Frazier
4 hrs
agree Joshua Parker : I agree with Robert here - I think the idea is that Libya is not a safe port/haven/place for migrants to be returned to.
4 hrs
disagree Lester Tattersall : So, if something is difficult to translate your solution is simply to ignore it?
5 hrs
No, it is to do research, and when I do not find the example online, I suspect there could be an error...
neutral philgoddard : Rechazar is fundamental to the meaning of the sentence.
8 hrs
but it is not correct.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Liz and thanks to everyone for their input."
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16 mins

reject

Hello Mark. "Reject" is the term in this case.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Robert Carter : Yes, but this translation doesn't really make sense in the context.//I think the idea is "it is not a safe place for them to be returned to".
14 mins
Gracias, Robert. Sin embargo, tiene sentido. ¿Alguna propuesta terminológica?
agree philgoddard : Yes, this does make sense. If Libyans try unsuccessfully to migrate, they're not allowed to return.
41 mins
Thanks philgoddard.
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14 mins

not to allow/accept

Here, unless taking "sides" I would translate "nuetral" as "not to allow/accept the entrance of..."

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Note added at 43 minutos (2020-09-02 19:00:17 GMT)
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I thought also of "refuse to let in..."
Peer comment(s):

neutral Robert Carter : Yes, but this translation doesn't really make sense in the context.//Unfortunately, the double negative makes it spectactularly difficult to understand the idea you're trying to express. In any case, I don't think that's what it's saying. Saludos!
16 mins
"puerto seguro para rechazar a migrantes" I understand they can enter with no difficulty. So "not a safety port to not allow the migration of people..." is exactly what I understand in Spanish. Yes, it is within context.:)
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3 hrs

take... to

"a country that can by no means be considered a safe port to take the migrants to."

It's really to 'dump' the migrants, but that wouldn't sound very good.

I say "safe port" to be safe, as I think this is possibly the legal term that must be used, even though, as someone has pointed out, a port is normally a town or city not a country.
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9 hrs

turn back

used frequently in this type of context

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Note added at 10 hrs (2020-09-03 04:18:51 GMT)
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so many answers and comments that this will probably go unnoticed but I would say it's a good option
Peer comment(s):

agree neilmac : I prefer this option... "not a safe port to return them to"...
3 hrs
thanks Neil
agree Sara Fairen : I like this too. Not a safe port for migrants turned back (as in blocked from, or prevented from reaching European territory)
4 hrs
thanks Sara
neutral liz askew : doesn't make sense in the context
1 day 6 hrs
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19 hrs

push back

Push-backs are a set of state measures by which refugees and migrants are forced back over a border – generally immediately after they crossed it – without consideration of their individual circumstances and without any possibility to apply for asylum or to put forward arguments against the measures taken. Push-backs violate – among other laws – the prohibition of collective expulsions stipulated in the European Convention on Human Rights.
Example sentence:

EU border agency helps Greece push back migrants.

Peer comment(s):

agree Lester Tattersall : It seems you're right. In Australia they apparently invented the term, and it was translated inti Spanish by "(medidas de) rechazo" and "rechazar". See Discussion Entry no. 10.
1 day 5 hrs
Thanks, Lester!
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