Jul 25, 2020 22:49
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English term

wouldn't

Non-PRO English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature American novel
The husband is going to fix a dinner for himself and his wife (Melinda) and daughter. What wouldn't Melinda do? Put potatoes on or eat?

"He got out some frozen peas. Peas, a big salad of lettuce and tomato, and the chops. He didn't want a potato, and he knew if he didn't put potatoes on, Melinda ***wouldn't***."
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Jul 26, 2020 05:23: Tony M changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Yvonne Gallagher, Cilian O'Tuama, Tony M

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Discussion

Tony M Jul 27, 2020:
@ Asker It's not really odd: if the writer had used 'but' (as might be more usual), it would have emphasized that 'he didn't want to, but if he didn't do it, no-one else would'; the fact the writer uses 'and' implies perhaps less reluctance on his part: 'he didn't want a potato for himself, and he knew that no-one else would cook it if he didn't' — just a subtle nuance of emphasis.
Alexander Alexandrov (asker) Jul 26, 2020:
It continues that he fixed the entire dinner. It is not expected that she would participate in cooking. A strange phrase! Because of "and" I would be inclined to think that she wouldn't want one (potato) either.
David Hollywood Jul 26, 2020:
how does the text continue?

Responses

+6
9 mins
English term (edited): wouldn\'t
Selected

wouldn’t do it

and he knew if he didn't put potatoes on, Melinda wouldn’t do it (i.e. put potatoes on).

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Note added at 54 mins (2020-07-25 23:44:01 GMT)
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You can split the sentence:
He didn't want a potato, and he knew if he didn't put potatoes on, Melinda wouldn't.
into two separate sentences:
He didn't want a potato.
He knew if he didn't put potatoes on, Melinda wouldn't.

This makes it clear that "wouldn't" refers back to "put".
Peer comment(s):

agree Salma Harland (X)
41 mins
agree philgoddard
7 hrs
agree Sanaz Khanjani
8 hrs
agree Yvonne Gallagher : yes, makes most sense logically and grammatically. It could be read as she wouldn't want one (potato) either. But he's in charge of the cooking, so she'll get what he cooks!
13 hrs
agree Edith Kelly
1 day 4 hrs
agree asmat jahan
2 days 5 hrs
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+2
6 hrs

wouldn't put potatoes on

It has to follow on from the immediately preceding idea, which is 'put the potatoes on' — "if he didn't... she wouldn't..."

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Note added at 6 hrs (2020-07-26 05:28:35 GMT)
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You may be thinking that it could mean "He didn't want a potato, and he knew if he didn't put potatoes on, Melinda wouldn't [want one either]" — although that's a plausible enough scenario (maybe she was too lazy to put potatoes on, so would pretend she didn't want any); but this doesn't really fit with the logical structure of the sentence. The only arguable point I can see is why the writer used 'and', instead of 'but' — but that is neither grammatically nor logically incorrect, just perhaps a tiny nuance of meaning buried within the style.
Peer comment(s):

agree adel almergawy
5 hrs
Thanks, Adel!
agree Sheila Wilson
10 hrs
Thanks, Sheila!
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