Jul 6, 2020 06:24
3 yrs ago
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German term

Gebäudeimmobilien

German to English Marketing Real Estate
+ Neue Ausstellerzielgruppen
+ Einladung neuer Aussteller aus den Bereichen Grundstücke, Gebäudeimmobilien und Bauträger.

VIELEN DANK!

Discussion

Chris Pr Jul 6, 2020:
This asker usually stipulates.... ...international (UK) English...IIRC...
Klaus Beyer Jul 6, 2020:
USA Immobilienausdrücke real property = bebautes oder unbebautes Land
personal property = alles andere Eigentum
properties (plural) = bezieht sich immer auf Immobilien (real estate)
Besitz
developed land = unbebautes Land, planiert und hat auch Wasser, Kanalisation und Elektrizitätsanschluß
undeveloped land = Land ohne die oben erwähnten Verbesserungen
building site = wo ein Gebäude demnächst errichtet wird
construction site = wo der Bau eines Gebäudes derzeit stattfindet
real estate = jede Form von Landbesitz
Klaus Beyer Jul 6, 2020:
USA Immobilienausdrücke real property = bebautes oder unbebautes Land
personal property = alles andere Eigentum
properties (plural) = bezieht sich immer auf Immobilien (real estate)
Besitz
developed land = unbebautes Land, planiert und hat auch Wasser, Kanalisation und Elektrizitätsanschluß
undeveloped land = Land ohne die oben erwähnten Verbesserungen
building site = wo ein Gebäude demnächst errichtet wird
construction site = wo der Bau eines Gebäudes derzeit stattfindet
real estate = jede Form von Landbesitz

Proposed translations

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German term (edited): Gebäudeimmobilien
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real estate

I fear that splitting off one word is obfuscating what is being said here

I read the source text as:
+ New exhibitor target groups
+ Invitation of new exhibitors from the land, real estate and property development sectors
Peer comment(s):

agree Catriona C.
13 mins
agree TonyTK
8 hrs
neutral philgoddard : You can't say "land and real estate", because land is real estate.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "vielen Dank!"
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buildings

Grundstücke, Gebäudeimmobilien und Bauträger = land/real property, buildings and developers

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Note added at 57 mins (2020-07-06 07:21:27 GMT)
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... wobei aus der Aufzählung nicht klar wird, was genau hinter den "Gebäudeimmobilien" steckt (Makler, Verwaltung/Vermietung, Betrieb und Unterhalt ...).
Note from asker:
Thank you, Steffen! "Gebäudeimmobilien" is such a strange & misleading German term and has very few Google entries...
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard
1 hr
agree Chris Foster : land , buildings and developers. I would not use "real property" because it comprises land and buildings. Adrian MM I believe is on the right lines with "building-only freehold investment " but in this context I think it is overcomplicating things.
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agree TonyTK
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agree Katrin Braams
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1 hr

property

The defining lines aren't crystal clear here, but I'd go with land, property and development....
You could also add 'ownership', if deemed necessary...?

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"SJD provide expert advice on land, property and development."
https://www.sjd-projects.co.uk/about/

"Our auctions have a success rate of over 85% in land, property and development sales across Somerset and Wiltshire."
https://www.cooperandtanner.co.uk/land-and-property
Peer comment(s):

agree Steffen Walter : "Land, property and development" looks like a viable option, especially if used in exactly this collocation. On its own, the concept of "property" appears to be less clear-cut, though. (I'd also thought of using "development" rather than "developers".)
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German term (edited): AUT Gebäudeimmobilien

buildings-only freehold investment

- as opposed to Grundstücks- > landsite-only - and Gewerbeimmobilien > industrial property

Land in ENG law, again, includes buildings, so query: buildng/s-only land
Example sentence:

Sie sind Eigentümer einer Grundstücks- oder Gebäudeimmobilie im privat- oder gewerbe-wirtschaftlichen Bereich und möchten Ihre Immobilie in eine neue, gewinnbringende Nutzung überführen, ihren Wert durch Erschließung bislang ungenutzter Ressourcen

Determining the fair value of investment property requires estimates with regard to dividing this property into buildings and freehold land. rewe-group.com [...] Finanzinvestition gehaltenen immobilien erfordert schätzungen hinsichtlich der aufteilung

Peer comment(s):

neutral Steffen Walter : I doubt the appropriateness of a strictly "legalese" version in this marketing/trade fair context (note the mention of exhibitors in the context).
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Meant to be more AE: realtor- BE: estate agency-slanted than law-speak cf. Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, redevelopment ads in EN post-1990 vgl. 'DUBAI PROPERTY INVESTMENT SHOW LONDON- *FREEHOLD PROPERTIES* IN JUMEIRAH DUBAI PROPERTY & REAL ESTATE EXHIBITION '
neutral AllegroTrans : I fear you have tied yourself in a legal knot or even a not
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Grundstücksimmobilie in Vienna: a landsite development cf. the carpark site outside Meidlinger Hauptstraße U-Bahn; Gewerbeimmobilie > the shopping centre opposite; Gebäudeimmobilie > the new high-rise on Schönbrunnerstr. on the other side.
neutral Chris Foster : Yes, it is possible to own just the buildings and not the site, but in the context of this flyer "buildings" on its own I think is better.
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OK, point taken, though it might be useful -some other time - to distinguish betwen the three Austrian non-grundbücherliche / land non-registrable but investment categories of Grundstücks-, Gewerbe- and Gebäudeimmobilien.
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structural real estate

There are essentially 4 types of real estate: land, structural real estate, deep real estate, and air space.
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Ref.:
Value of Place project document - City of Tigardwww.tigard-or.gov › TigardTriangle › WalkThisWay
PDF
United States may be at the beginning of a structural real estate market shift. ... We conducted archival analysis of existing land use plans, special district ...
by CB Leinberger - ‎Cited by 3 - ‎Related articles

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BETTER reference:


Nargiz v. Henlopen Developers :: 1977 :: Delaware Supreme ...law.justia.com › cases › delaware › supreme-court
The Interstate Land Sales Full Disclosure Act was enacted by Congress as part ... feel that when parties bargain for the sale of a structural real estate unit which ...
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : I don't think the qualifier is needed here - the context makes it obvious what it's about
1 hr
Not only would the absence of the qualifier cause most readers to pause unnecessarily, but it would be fatally misleading. If I were the editor of the person who wrote just "real estate" I would charge him/her with a major mistake in translation.
agree Cillie Swart : thanks for sharing!
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