Jun 9, 2020 11:28
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divorce me vs. divorce you
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Разговор о разводе в художественном произведении, США, 1950-е годы
Речь идет о том, кто из супругов подает на развод, кто его инициализирует?
(He says:)
“Would you like a ***divorce from*** me? If I gave you a very good income to live on?”
“No,” she said firmly.
(He says:)
“I’ll give you anything but Trixie, if you want to ***divorce me***. You will have money to do what you want with. You’ll be absolutely free of responsibility for a child and for a husband.”
“I’ve told you,” she said slowly,” I haven’t finished with you yet. Why don't ***you divorce me***? It'd be a lot safer for you. You certainly consider you've got grounds, don't you?” she said sarcastically, as if the grounds were illusory or as if he would have been a cad to use them.
(He says:)
“I never said I wanted to ***divorce you***, did I? I'd feel – as if I were shirking my responsibility if I did. Besides, it isn't appropriate for a ***man to divorce his wife***. ***She should divorce him***.”
(He says:)
“Would you like a ***divorce from*** me? If I gave you a very good income to live on?”
“No,” she said firmly.
(He says:)
“I’ll give you anything but Trixie, if you want to ***divorce me***. You will have money to do what you want with. You’ll be absolutely free of responsibility for a child and for a husband.”
“I’ve told you,” she said slowly,” I haven’t finished with you yet. Why don't ***you divorce me***? It'd be a lot safer for you. You certainly consider you've got grounds, don't you?” she said sarcastically, as if the grounds were illusory or as if he would have been a cad to use them.
(He says:)
“I never said I wanted to ***divorce you***, did I? I'd feel – as if I were shirking my responsibility if I did. Besides, it isn't appropriate for a ***man to divorce his wife***. ***She should divorce him***.”
Reference comments
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Turdimurod Rakhmanov
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Reference:
развестись со мной / расвестись с тобой
... развестись со мной / расвестись с тобой
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или дать развод напр. жене
давать развод мне
давать развод тебя
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Note added at 1 hr (2020-06-09 13:08:15 GMT)
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тебЕ
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Note added at 1 hr (2020-06-09 12:33:37 GMT)
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или дать развод напр. жене
давать развод мне
давать развод тебя
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тебЕ
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Boris Shapiro
: "Дать развод тебя" - это, видимо, на бабки.
26 mins
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8 hrs
Reference:
Divorce in the United States
Divorce in the United States
Before the latter decades of the 20th century, a spouse seeking divorce had to show cause and even then might not be able to obtain a divorce. The legalization of no-fault divorce in the United States began in 1969 in California, pursuant to legislation signed by then-Governor Ronald Reagan and was completed in 2010, with New York being the last of the fifty states to legalize it.[45][46] However, some states still require some waiting period before a divorce, typically a 1– to 2–year separation. Fault grounds, when available, are sometimes still sought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_law_by_country#United_...
At-fault divorce
Before the late 1960s, nearly all countries that permitted divorce required proof by one party that the other party had committed an act incompatible to the marriage. This was termed "grounds" for divorce (popularly called "fault") and was the only way to terminate a marriage. Most jurisdictions around the world still require such proof of fault...
Fault-based divorces can be contested; evaluation of offenses may involve allegations of collusion of the parties (working together to get the divorce)...
No-fault divorce
In jurisdictions adopting the 'no-fault' principle regarding whether to grant a divorce, some courts may still take into account the fault of the parties when determining some aspects of the content of the divorce decree, e.g., its terms for the division of property and debts and the existence and, if applicable, the amount of spousal support. Provisions related to child custody are determined using a different fundamental standard, that of the child's or children's best interests; while some behaviors that may constitute marital fault (e.g., violence, cruelty, endangerment, neglect, or substance abuse) may also qualify as factors to be considered when determining child custody, they do so for the independent reason that they provide evidence as to what arrangement is in the child's or children's best interests going forward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce
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Collusion has often been used in DIVORCE proceedings. In the past some jurisdictions made it extremely difficult for a couple to obtain a divorce. Often a "sweetheart" agreement would take place, whereby a husband or wife would commit, or appear to commit, ADULTERY or other acts that would justify a divorce. The public policy against collusive divorces is based on the idea that such actions would conflict with the effective administration by society of laws on marriage and divorce and would undermine marriage as a stabilizing force in society.
https://law.jrank.org/pages/5376/Collusion.html
Before the latter decades of the 20th century, a spouse seeking divorce had to show cause and even then might not be able to obtain a divorce. The legalization of no-fault divorce in the United States began in 1969 in California, pursuant to legislation signed by then-Governor Ronald Reagan and was completed in 2010, with New York being the last of the fifty states to legalize it.[45][46] However, some states still require some waiting period before a divorce, typically a 1– to 2–year separation. Fault grounds, when available, are sometimes still sought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_law_by_country#United_...
At-fault divorce
Before the late 1960s, nearly all countries that permitted divorce required proof by one party that the other party had committed an act incompatible to the marriage. This was termed "grounds" for divorce (popularly called "fault") and was the only way to terminate a marriage. Most jurisdictions around the world still require such proof of fault...
Fault-based divorces can be contested; evaluation of offenses may involve allegations of collusion of the parties (working together to get the divorce)...
No-fault divorce
In jurisdictions adopting the 'no-fault' principle regarding whether to grant a divorce, some courts may still take into account the fault of the parties when determining some aspects of the content of the divorce decree, e.g., its terms for the division of property and debts and the existence and, if applicable, the amount of spousal support. Provisions related to child custody are determined using a different fundamental standard, that of the child's or children's best interests; while some behaviors that may constitute marital fault (e.g., violence, cruelty, endangerment, neglect, or substance abuse) may also qualify as factors to be considered when determining child custody, they do so for the independent reason that they provide evidence as to what arrangement is in the child's or children's best interests going forward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce
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Note added at 9 час (2020-06-09 21:09:16 GMT)
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Collusion has often been used in DIVORCE proceedings. In the past some jurisdictions made it extremely difficult for a couple to obtain a divorce. Often a "sweetheart" agreement would take place, whereby a husband or wife would commit, or appear to commit, ADULTERY or other acts that would justify a divorce. The public policy against collusive divorces is based on the idea that such actions would conflict with the effective administration by society of laws on marriage and divorce and would undermine marriage as a stabilizing force in society.
https://law.jrank.org/pages/5376/Collusion.html
Discussion
"разводным письмом" и тэ дэ).