May 11, 2020 11:46
3 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Flete sin retención

Spanish to English Bus/Financial Accounting Freight charges, logistics
Spain + LatAm.
This term appears in a car manufacturer's "Documentation for integration with customers, suppliers and business partners." I know that "flete" is freight, but from the scant context available, I can't decide whether the appropriate term will be "withholding" or "retention"...


Lista de valores permitidos:
V1 (1 %)
V0 (0 %)
V4 (11 %)
V6 (16 %)
E (Flete retencion 4%)
A (Flete sin retención)
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May 11, 2020 15:43: Jane Martin changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

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Discussion

Francois Boye May 11, 2020:
Flete means freight and freight rate: see the text below.

En cuanto a la retencion del 4% la regla 5.1.1 segundo parrafo nos indica el porcentaje que deben de retener. Cabe señalar que existen empresas que venden y entregan sus productos a veces cobran el flete, pero su actividad no es la de autotransportistas en estos casos no se deben de efectuar retención alguna.

Proposed translations

8 hrs
Selected

Freight without tax withheld

After looking at the following article with the title "¿Cómo y cuándo se aplica la retención del 4% de IVA por flete?", I see that it most likely applies to a VAT withholding or sales tax withholding of 4% charged on freight:

http://ayudaeconta.globalpc.net/cuando-se-aplica-el-4-de-iva...

In addition, the article https://contarte.mx/que-es-una-retencion/ refers to "Retenciones por Fletes y Transportes".

More generally, you can also refer to it as "withholding tax," although this usually refers to income tax in particular. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withholding_tax

I'm almost certain your source text is referring to the withholding of VAT or sales tax incurred on cargo. If you find mentions of it elsewhere in your text, then you could say "sales tax withholding" (for audiences based in countries using a general sales tax, such as the US, Canada, Australia, etc.) or "VAT withholding" (for audiences based in countries using a value-added tax, such as the UK, Ireland, South Africa, etc.).

An alternative is to say "tax withheld" or "no tax withheld." This way, you avoid specifying what tax it is. Saying "withholding" on its own is a bit strange and could mean various things, but then again, your source text does that too, so taking the context into account is important.

Translation options:

"E (Freight with 4% sales tax withholding)" or "E (Freight with 4% VAT withholding)" or "E (Freight with 4% tax withheld)"
"A (Freight without 4% sales tax withholding)" or "A (Freight without 4% VAT withholding)" or "A (Freight without 4% tax withheld)"

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Note added at 8 hrs (2020-05-11 20:11:18 GMT)
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As others have commented, flete refers to a freight charge (or freightage).

With this in mind, you can also translate it as follows:

E (Freightage with 4% tax withheld)
A (Freightage without tax withheld)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I'm awarding the kudoz points to Michael for his thoughtful explanation, although after discussing it with the client, we ended up just leaving the Chrysler Mexico version cited by Ramon."
1 hr

Freight without retention

Chrysler calls it retention in English and Retención in Spanish

E:Freight retention 4%;
A:Freight without retention;

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Note added at 3 hrs (2020-05-11 15:10:49 GMT)
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Perhaps, but considering the text can be found in English and Spanish, unless I could speak to the client directly and confirm this info, I would not assume and would leave exactly the same. But that is my personal opinion.
Note from asker:
Thanks. That's what I found from Chrysler Mexico, but I think it might be a mistranslation from English (withholding)
Peer comment(s):

agree Micaela Ruiz
1 hr
:)
disagree Francois Boye : flete means freight rate/charge in this case
6 hrs
Even when the client itself calls it "Freight without retention"?
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+1
4 hrs

freight charge without tax withholding

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Peer comment(s):

agree Francois Boye
3 hrs
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