French term
United Kingdom
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Spanish to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
comme enfant légitime né d'un père français
'En effet son pere est francais en application des dispositions de l'article 17 du code de la nationalite francaise (redaction du 19/10/1945) comme enfant legitime d'un pere francais.
Looking for a 'smooth' rendering of this French text.
| 4 +9 | as the legitimate child of a French father |
Tony M
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Feb 10, 2020 00:19: writeaway changed "Language pair" from "French" to "French to English"
Feb 10, 2020 04:29: Michele Fauble changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Feb 10, 2020 20:28: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "comme enfant legitime ne d\'un pere francais" to "comme enfant légitime né d\'un père français"
Non-PRO (3): Rachel Fell, philgoddard, Michele Fauble
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Proposed translations
as the legitimate child of a French father
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Note added at 10 hrs (2020-02-10 09:55:06 GMT)
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I think 'legitimate' is perhaps not PC in everyday speech, since it discriminates againts 'natural' children as being 'illegitimate' — but I think it still retains its original sense in legal terminology.
@ Asker: it seems to me the text is a bit convoluted, because as I understand it, it is saying that [the current child] can be French because his father himself was the legitimate son of a French man (i.e. grandfather)
As for the 'en effet', I'd have thought here 'in effect' or possibly even 'in point of fact' would do the trick — probably dependent on what appears in the preceding sentence?
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Note added at 15 hrs (2020-02-10 15:00:55 GMT)
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I don't think 'ondeed' would work here either — but like I said, it depends on what precedes. 'Indeed' would tend to confirm or reinforce the preceding statement — whereas I would see the 'en effet' here as probably introducing an explanation of what precedes, by amplifying on it.
| thanks Tony, just thought the sentence was not grammatically sound. To Phil, yes legitime is not used now in France I believe, not sure in the UK as people keep on using old terminology but from a legal stand point, I have not found it is not used any longer, if that makes sense To Write away, my query was about the 'French tournure' as I find 'En effet son pere est francais....comme enfant legitime.." perhaps it needs 'etoffement' here. What do you do with 'en effet' ? redondant here ? merci d'avance N |
| to PH -b Thanks but I don't think it works here methink |
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