Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
"clipped the odd kerb"
English answer:
came close to cutting corners/taking short cuts
English term
"clipped the odd kerb"
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Oh. And there's a bob or two in that, == CHARLIE
is there?
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Can be. Business, it's all about
taking your chances, isn't it, Charlie? == LOLA
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- Oh, right! CHARLIE
- I mean... LOLA
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I don't expect you made yours
without cutting the odd corner, right? LOLA
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Well, let's just say I might have
clipped the odd kerb once or twice, eh? CHARLIE
4 +2 | cutting corners/taking short cuts | Yvonne Gallagher |
3 -2 | Running over the kerb | Lara Barnett |
cut corners | Daryo |
Oct 29, 2019 20:45: Yvonne Gallagher Created KOG entry
Oct 29, 2019 20:53: Yvonne Gallagher changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1300525">Yvonne Gallagher's</a> old entry - ""clipped the odd kerb""" to ""(may have) come close to cutting corners/taking short cuts""
Oct 29, 2019 20:53: Yvonne Gallagher changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1300525">Yvonne Gallagher's</a> old entry - ""clipped the odd kerb""" to ""come close to cutting corners/taking short cuts""
Responses
cutting corners/taking short cuts
"cutting the odd corner"=taking a shortcut (odd=on occasion)
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or past tense
cut corners/took short cuts
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-10-26 11:47:09 GMT)
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https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/cut corners
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Note added at 3 days 10 hrs (2019-10-29 20:44:22 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped.
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Tony M
: And I think "clipped the odd [= occasional] kerb" probably means "came very close to (but didn't quite) cutting the actual corner"
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Many thanks:-) Yes, "clipped"=came very close to//yes, it's possible he didn't ACTUALLY cut any corners (though Lola seems to think he did!)
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Duarte Leal
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Many thanks:-)
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philgoddard
: This is quite funny. God knows how you translate things like this, or "there's a bob or two in that".
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Thanks. Well, didn't ask about 2nd one but something simple like "able to make some money on the side"? (unless there's a similar idiom in Polish)
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Daryo
: Yes, that's what the dictionary / context-free meaning would be. BUT ... how would this connect to "Activities at the edge of the law" ??// I did, and I also know how I heard this being used for the last 20 odd years - never in THAT meaning of "illegal"
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Once again your English comprehension is faulty and you've missed the underlying meaning (act illegally and/or ignore rules, procedures etc.)//keep digging!
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Lara Barnett
: Answer relates to "cutting the odd corner", from previous line, not to "clipping the kerb", which has particular nuance.// Not really, but you have provided the meaning of line "without cutting the odd corner, ..? .." (previous)/I didn't dispute dodginess
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Talk about missing nuances!! You've missed the underlying meaning! LOL//I used to watch Bergerac and this character was definitely involved in dodgy dealings.
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Running over the kerb
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"At intersections you may have to swing wide to make a left turn. At marked intersections:
* Position your vehicle ,,,,,
Bus and truck drivers need to start a left turn further into the intersection than a car so that the back WHEELS DO NOT RUN OVER THE KERB."
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/hea...
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I think it should be accepted that all ideas connected to cars, kerbs and corners are being used metaphorically. This was the idea behind my answer, despite other peers suggestions to the contrary.
Therefore please accept my answer as metaphorical and I hope that the misrepresentation of my answer by these other peers will not misguide you from my meaning.
"The most common mistake in right turns..... Is running over the curb."
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Tony M
: No, the whole point of this remark is they are saying that even though they didn't actually cut the corner by "running over the kerb", they maye have just touched it — which is what "clipped" means; the sort of case where you scratch your wheel rim! Yes!!
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But we don't know that they simply "touched it" do we! But also, I am explaining the meaning/usage of the term and the suggestion as this is not an obvious meaning to somebody who may not speak English as a native language.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: previous remark "And there's a bob or two in that" tells us how this should be read! Metaphorically//NOTHING TO DO WITH DRIVING HERE//well, you haven't that's for sure. "this was the idea behind my answer". So now you're backpedalling? LOL
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If "backpeddling" means going back on my word, I certainly have not. I DID NOT AT ANY POINT DISPUTE METAPHORICAL USE OF LANGUAGE, NOR THE DODGINESS OF DEAL// THE ASKER REQUESTED HELP ON THE MEANING OF A "CLIPPED KERB" - The answer is SAME regardless, LOL
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Reference comments
cut corners
Also found in: Dictionary, Thesaurus, Medical, Legal, Financial, Encyclopedia.
1 cut corners
To skip certain steps in order to do something as easily or cheaply as possible, usually to the detriment of the finished product or end result.
Don't cut corners on this project—it has to be done thoroughly, no matter the cost.
If you cut corners and don't apply a top coat, then your nails probably are going to chip faster.
2 cut corners
Fig. to take shortcuts; to save money or effort by finding cheaper or easier ways to do something. They're always finding ways to cut corners. I won't cut corners just to save money. I put quality first.
3 cut corners
Do something in the easiest or least expensive way; also, to act illegally. For example, Cutting corners in production led to a definite loss in product quality, or If the accountant cuts corners the auditors are sure to find out. This term alludes to rounding a corner as closely as possible in order to shorten the distance traversed and/or save time. [Late 1800s]
4 cut corners
COMMON If you cut corners, you save time, money, or effort by not following the correct procedure or rules for doing something. Don't try to cut corners as you'll only be making work for yourself later on. He accused the Home Office of trying to save money by cutting corners on security. Note: You can call this activity corner cutting. It's precisely this sort of corner cutting that causes the problems. Corner-cutting contractors build tiny classrooms and narrow corridors.
See also: corner, cut
5 cut corners
undertake something in what appears to be the easiest, quickest, or cheapest way, often by omitting to do something important or ignoring rules.
This phrase comes from cutting (off) the corner , which means ‘taking the shortest course by going across and not round a corner’.
6 cut corners (disapproving)
do things in the easiest, quickest or cheapest way and not in the proper way: Don’t be tempted to cut corners when doing a home decorating job.
7 cut corners
tv. to do something more easily; to take shortcuts; to save money by finding cheaper ways to do something. (As if one were speeding somewhere and took the shortest way possible through intersections, i.e., by making left turns that cut across oncoming traffic lanes.) I won’t cut corners just to save money. I put quality first.
8 cut corners
To do something in the easiest or most inexpensive way.
9 cut corners, to
To do a hasty, slipshod job; also, to act illegally. The term comes from using a direct route that omits corners or from moving very fast and rounding turns very closely. It dates from about the middle of the nineteenth century. Mark Twain used it in Innocents Abroad (1869): “He cuts a corner so closely now and then . . . that I feel myself ‘scooching.’”
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/cut corners
"ALSO ... to act illegally"
in brief: of NINE definitions for "cutting corners" gathered from various sources by thefreedictionary.com ONLY TWO mention as "a second / also" meaning that something plain illegal could be involved in "cutting corners".
All other definitions are variations on the same theme: doing a quick rubbish job without any concerns for quality, the twin sibling of indulging in penny-pinching.
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Lara Barnett
: This is what I thought too.// But the problem with this question is that the requested term is "clipped the kerb", not the line "cut the corner", which is what everybody is referring to - hence some of the misunderstandings on my own posted answer I think
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Thank you! I wasn't dreaming how I ever heard this term being used.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: STILL DIGGING?! Look at definitions 4, 5, 6,7 as well! All IFFY procedures= "Activities at the edge of the law". NB!! not "illegal" per se. And find your own "reference" next time instead of reposting mine
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YOU keep digging you own hole - there is more than a "small nuance" between something being plain illegal and "IFFY procedures" - ignoring steps in good procedures that you don't like! Or are you going to redefine what is "illegal"?
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Discussion
I don't think you have made clear whether it is the idea, or metaphor, of clipping the kerb that you do not understand, or whether you do not understand why it is being used here.
At the same time, it it is also important to look at the term requested by you "clipped", of which you seemed to be be asking its meaning in this context, and how it is used within this situation (albeit within a metaphorical sense in this case).
Thank you all for the ideas,
but "conundrum" turned out to be very simple.
This is obviously a certain pun.
It sounds cool in English,
but I also came out of it in Polish.
The context was as follows.
Charlie H. and Lola Betts are on a date at a nightclub.
They sat down for a moment to talk.
They began to talk about what they do.
Lola as a cheater and a cunning, experienced woman
at one point states that Charlie did not make his fortune
fully legally.
He responded playfully
that once or twice he did not quite legally act.
And then they both laugh.
I didn't think that even native speakers would have problems.
clipped the odd kerb once or twice" in other words that he MAY have come close to doing that but is claiming he didn't actually do so. However, he was always seen as involved in dodgy dealings a "likeable rogue" is how he was described.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergerac_(TV_series)
The above Wiki link is just there to support your explanation--that is, except for the part about police brutality (even if it was just an example); it's about business dealings, as noted in the excerpt posted by Robert.
Best wishes
So the idea is "I didn't actually do it, though I admit I did come pretty close".