Sep 23, 2019 08:58
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Russian term

бархатное

Russian to English Other Food & Drink
Барнаульское светлое, 500 мл 150
Барнаульское бархатное, 500 мл 150
(Названия пива из меню.)

Discussion

Turdimurod Rakhmanov Sep 23, 2019:
beer is redundant. It is the name of the beer type in the menu, so using beer is redundant, I would not use "beer".
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Sep 23, 2019:
Route 2: Transliteration
This is by far the most popular choice for translating a proper noun into your target language. Transliteration is the method of converting the characters written in the source script to the target script. This is different from translation because it converts the pronunciation of the source word, not its meaning.
https://gengo.com/translator-product-updates/key-strategies-...
Turdimurod Rakhmanov Sep 23, 2019:
Velvet vs velvety, I don't want to say that the term "velvet" is not relevant here. What I want to say is that there is the Czech beer called "Velvet", (there should not be confusion) https://pivovary-staropramen.cz/en/about-us/our-brands/velve...
And besides, it is about lager, dark lager, not about the beer in general. So, Barnaulsky velvet dark is enough to convey the sense. Barnaulsky velvet dark (lager). Lager and Barkhatnoye could be given in parenthesis.
Here is the example: English and Russian versions: Барнаульское темное бархатное-dark velvet: In the context, "темное" is omitted.
https://studylib.ru/doc/2081538/social._nyj-otchet-pivovaren...

Proposed translations

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velvet

velvet beer

Думаю, что писать "dark lager" не стоит, так как это все-таки исконно советско-российский сорт темного пива, и переводом стоит показать его "уникальность". Может быть, как вариант, еще в скобках после velvet написать "barkhatnoye".

"Бархатное пиво – это советско-российский сорт темного пива верхового брожения с ярко выраженным солодовыми и хлебными тонами. В классической рецептуре Бархатное пиво имело крепость до 2,5% об. и по вкусу напоминало квас. Современные варианты значительно отличаются от советского образца по составу, органолептическим свойствам и крепости".

https://alcofan.com/sovetskij-sort-piva-barxatnoe.html
https://profibeer.ru/en/beer-tsardom-of-russia/28635/
Peer comment(s):

neutral Turdimurod Rakhmanov : We can't say "velvet" beer, but velvety beer is fine. Velvet is the name of the beer. Velvety-means бархатное.
35 mins
agree David Knowles : I'd say "velvet beer", despite Turdimurod's objections!
2 hrs
спасибо!
agree IrinaN : This is the name under which it's sold in the US
3 hrs
спасибо, Ирина!
agree Alexander Gulevskiy : That's right!
1 day 2 hrs
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1 hr

velvety smooth / smooth beer

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12 mins

Barnaulsky dark lager / Barnaulsky beer with velvety (silky) mouthfeel

Barnaulsky dark lager / Barnaulsky beer with velvety (silky) mouthfeel

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Note added at 13 mins (2019-09-23 09:12:45 GMT)
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Or Barnaulsky velvety (silky) beer

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Note added at 1 hr (2019-09-23 10:17:52 GMT)
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I am sure here there is no need to use beer, as in the original, so just:
Barnaulsky velvet dark or
Barnaulsky velvet dark lager or

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Note added at 1 hr (2019-09-23 10:23:21 GMT)
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https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/baird-black-velvet-dark-lager/...
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Barnaulsky Barkhatnoye (velvet-smooth flavor and taste) dark beer

This is a proper name of a beer. In general, proper names are not translated. No one will find this beer on the shelves with the velvet name. Here, I propose transliterating the name and adding explanation in the parentheses.
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ПИВО ТЕМНОЕ «БАРХАТНОЕ»
Сочетание карамельного и светлых солодов придает пиву особый
аромат и бархатистый вкус. Выпускается: стеклобутылка 0,5 л, ПЭТ
1,5 л, ПЭТ 2,5 л, кег 30 л и 50 л.
«Барнаульский пивоваренный
завод». Тел.: (3852) 314–756.
BARKHATNOYE DARK BEER
The combination of caramelized and
light malts adds a unique flavor and
smooth taste
to this beer.
Barnaulsky Pivovarenny Zavod
(Barnaul Brewery)
http://www.altsmb.ru/images/docs/Katalog_kids/KATALOG_ALTAY_...
Peer comment(s):

agree DTSM : тогда уже BarnaulskОЕ Barkhatnoye
20 hrs
Thank you, DT SM. Yes, for consistency, one could transliterate both. In English, though, a noun can often function as an adjective too.
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