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Spanish term

parciales

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Estimate for renovation of property (presupuesto y mediciones)
This is an estimate for renovation of a property (presupuesto y mediciones) from Spain.

The document has columns with the following headings
UDS (unidades presumably)
LONGITUD
ANCHURA
ALTURA
PARCIALES
CANTIDAD
PRECIO
IMPORTE

The column headed PARCIALES contains figures which I think are sub-totals but I'm not sure.

Any help appreciated.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 partial

Discussion

Lucy Breen (asker) May 2, 2019:
Parciales Thank you to all who have responded. Apparently the estimate is full of errors (wrong measurements/wording etc.) and has to be re-written.
Therefore difficult to say which response is most helpful e.g. I think Charles is spot on and the figures are incorrect.
Charles Davis Apr 30, 2019:
@Lucy They are sub-totals, or line totals or item totals; I don't know which you should use. I've tried to find an established term in equivalent documents in English, but without success. Each "parcial" is the number of units multiplied by the dimensions, and represents the quantity of that particular item. "Cantidad" is the sum of the "parciales" for a particular category, which may have one or more items in it. For example, in the case you've quoted to Taña, you have:

Baño: 2 units x L 1.75 x H 2.70 = Parcial 9.45 (2 x 1.75 x 2.70 = 2 x 4.725 = 9.45)

In the second one, Cocina, I think one or more of the figures must be wrong, because 1 x 2.50 x 2.70 = 6.75, not 5.89.

Anyway, if you had just these two items in a section, with parciales of 9.45 and 5.89, there would be a figure of 15.34 under "Cantidad" in the line below. This would be the sum of the "parciales" for that section/group.

Proposed translations

+2
6 hrs

partial

This could be referring to partial reconstruction. Some parts of the project might not be suitable for renovating and would have to be rebuilt (reconstruction)

see the last paragraph
http://jbace.com/renovation-vs-new-construction-what-to-cons...
Note from asker:
Many thanks for your contribution. Please see my comments posted as discussion
Peer comment(s):

agree Helena Chavarria : According to what I've seen, it means 'presupuestos parciales' = partial estimates
4 hrs
thank you, Helen
agree JohnMcDove
8 hrs
thanks, John
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Reference comments

15 mins
Reference:

Refs.

Lucy, can you list some of the figures under "parciales" in relation to the figures under height and width?


https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/furniture-hous...
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: Uds. Longitud Anchura Altura Parciales
English translation: Units (unidades)

However, it does not address your main question.



Lesson 2- Mastering Measuring Techniques
dollnetcampus.com/room/220/lesson2.html
If you want to make an oval, the height and width will be different. In this case the ... of the entire shape. Frequently we will only need the **half measurement*.

I think "half measurement(s)" may work.
Note from asker:
Hi Tana - 2 examples below BAÑO: UDS(2) LONGITUD(1,75) ANCHURA(-) ALTURA(2,70) PARCIALES(9,45) CANTIDAD(-) PRECIO(-) IMPORTE(-) COCINA UDS(1) LONGITUD(2,50) ANCHURA(-) ALTURA(2,70) PARCIALES(5,89)
Thank you Taña. Please see my comments posted as discussion
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Adrian MM. : half- or rather odd measurements for budget 'appropriation' - https://www.rib-software.es/pdf/PrestoEnLaEtapaDeProyecto/In... parcial.pdf //possibly they are cross-sections to be appropriated as 'presupuestos parciales'
2 hrs
Thank you. I agree they don't make too much sense. In wonder whether it has to do with the area?
agree Helena Chavarria : According to what I've seen, it means 'presupuesto parciales' = partial estimate
10 hrs
Thanks Helena.
agree JohnMcDove
14 hrs
Gracias John.
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10 hrs
Reference:

Partial estimate

Page 5
e) Estado de mediciones.
f) Presupuestos parciales.
Representa el coste de cada unidad constructiva. Cuando se prevé un
solo constructor, o cuando la obra es pequeña, el presupuesto parcial
coincide con el presupuesto general.
g) Presupuesto de ejecución general.
Representa el coste de las obras (suma de presupuestos parciales).
Se puede incrementar, en función del destino de proyecto, con gastos
generales y beneficio industrial, honorarios, e impuestos.

Por lo tanto, el documento Mediciones y Presupuesto se estructura en los
siguientes cuadros:
- Cuadro de precios en letra.
- Cuadro de descompuestos.
- Estado de mediciones.
- Presupuestos parciales.
- Resumen final del presupuesto por capítulos.

El estado de mediciones y presupuestos parciales pueden realizarse en el
mismo documento, mediciones y presupuesto.

https://previa.uclm.es/area/ing_rural/AsignaturaProyectos/Te...

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Note added at 10 hrs (2019-04-30 22:48:59 GMT)
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There is a table on page 6, where you can see

Title: Mediciones y Presupuesto
Then there are three columns headed: Partida, Concepto, Partes iguales

Then comes a column headed 'dimensiones', which is subdivided into three columns: Longitud Anchura Altura

Then comes a column 'Resultados', which is subdivided into 'Parciales' and 'Totales'

The last column 'Importes' is divided into 'Unitario' and 'Total'


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Note added at 11 hrs (2019-04-30 22:57:29 GMT)
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4. PRESUPUESTOS PARCIALES
Un presupuesto parcial representa el coste o presupuesto de una unidad constructiva.
Los presupuestos parciales suelen dividirse en capítulos, al igual que se hizo con las Mediciones, que comprendan cada uno de ellos todas las unidades de obra afines. De ahí que, generalmente, aparezcan capítulos como: Movimiento de tierras, cimentaciones, estructuras, albañilería, instalación eléctrica, saneamiento, etc.

http://ocw.bib.upct.es/pluginfile.php/11574/mod_resource/con...
Note from asker:
Thank you Helena. Please see my comments posted as discussion
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree JohnMcDove
4 hrs
Thank you, John :-)
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