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Mar 18, 2019 12:00
5 yrs ago
French term

collèges fantômes

French to English Other Business/Commerce (general) Voting systems
Hello all,
This comes from promotional material for a company which helps to organise staff elections, in this case social and economic committee elections. I'm afraid I've no idea what collèges fantômes refers to, though obviously some sort of voting college. Grateful for any suggestions.
En cas de carence, chaque collège devra être doté d’au moins un siège titulaire et suppléant (absence de collèges fantômes).
Proposed translations (English)
4 ghost (/unrepresented) electoral college

Discussion

Ph_B (X) Mar 18, 2019:
Victoria's/Phil's "absence de membre" is supported by one of the fantôme definitions in TLFi: Personne sans consistance, ni réelle existence
Carol Gullidge Mar 18, 2019:
yes, clearly not a typo given the later context and colleagues' comments
philgoddard Mar 18, 2019:
Sorry, I didn't notice that Victoria had already basically said the same thing.
Anne Greaves (asker) Mar 18, 2019:
Thanks Phil
philgoddard Mar 18, 2019:
It has to be an electoral college, probably representing one part of the company. Phantom colleges sounds OK to me.
Carence may mean that no one is appointed to the seats.
Anne Greaves (asker) Mar 18, 2019:
This is the preceding paragraph: Toute modification de la structure légale des collèges nécessite l’unanimité de la représentativité, calculée à partir des résultats du premier tour des précédentes élections.
Victoria Britten Mar 18, 2019:
carence? Is there any indication of what the "carence" would be? If not, my guess is that it means that even if no one stands for a given college, one representative and their deputy will be attributed to it anyway so that the members of that college are duly represented.
Carol Gullidge Mar 18, 2019:
the fact that it appears thus on two separate occasions perhaps makes a typo seem less likely...
Anne Greaves (asker) Mar 18, 2019:
Would have to check with client.
Carol Gullidge Mar 18, 2019:
Although there is a book with this title, it appears to have no connection with voting systems!

At a quick glance, is there any possibility that this is a typo for "collègues fantômes"?

Proposed translations

2 days 11 hrs
French term (edited): collège [electoral] fantôme
Selected

ghost (/unrepresented) electoral college

each "electoral college" (i.e. a group being represented - a "constituency" = employer / all workers / workers by production units / ...) must be represented in this body.

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Note added at 2 days 11 hrs (2019-03-20 23:46:05 GMT)
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no empty seats filled by "ghosts" allowed

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Note added at 2 days 11 hrs (2019-03-20 23:49:14 GMT)
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"carence" = some duties have not been fulfilled, here an "electoral college" failed to elect a representatives.

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Note added at 2 days 11 hrs (2019-03-20 23:52:11 GMT)
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absence de collèges fantômes
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each (electoral) college must be represented
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