Sep 3, 2018 14:34
5 yrs ago
Lithuanian term

neigia

Lithuanian to English Medical Medical (general)
Geltą neigia.

Turbūt yra standartinė frazė "neigia"...

Discussion

Rita Vaicekonyte Sep 4, 2018:
These are discussions on the use of the word from a linguistic/etymological perspective. But we should focus on what IS at present, be it a "good" term or "discriminatory", and not at what this term might be in the future or how to make the patient feel more empowered, as this is terminology used by doctors and aimed at other doctors, not patients (in most cases). "Reports no change" is also not a phrase that would work in instances of "patient denies MI, STD, jaundice, diabetes mellitus, etc".
Valters Feists Sep 4, 2018:
Some very long debates about “patient denies”. It is controversial to use “patient denies”, and there have been some truly long arguments both in favour and against it.

(1)
«being a patient is often a disempowering experience and tolerance for disempowering language is lessened under those circumstances. Doctors could instead choose to report the data as, “patient reports no change in diet.” [rather than “Patient denies change in diet,”]»
- http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2267#comment-65073

(2)
«“The patient denies...”
I remember being surprised the first time I saw this phrase on a medical chart; it seemed to allude to a frank suspicion that everything the patient said either was, or very well could be, a lie.»
- https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/the-patient-denies....

Proposed translations

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denies

Paprastai rašoma, kad denies (having) any allergies to xxx/to having had jaundice, MI ar pan.
Peer comment(s):

agree Ona Stankevičiūtė
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agree diana bb
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "ačiū"
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disaffirm(s)

Aš būtent taip verčiu šį žodį medicininių išrašų/siuntimų/anamnezių kontekstuose
Peer comment(s):

disagree Rita Vaicekonyte : Čia teisinis terminas, netinkantis medicininiam kontekstui, o ir šiaip pagal reikšmę netinkantis tai neigimo reikšmei, kuri turima omenyje med. išrašuose/anamnezėse.
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not reported

I think it has to sound neutral, not as if the doctor was being suspicious of the patient’s motives.

«Affective changes, though more sensitive and specific when reported by the patient as symptoms, are often readily observable as signs.»
- From Cambridge English Corpus
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/symptom

Examples below from PubMed Central® (PMC), a free full-text archive of biomedical and life sciences journal literature at the U.S. National Institutes of Health’s National Library of Medicine (NIH/NLM).
Example sentence:

Possible values for each symptom are 0 (symptom not reported), 1 (mild), 2 (moderate), 3 (severe), and 4 (extremely severe) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130512/

Index symptoms not reported by patients (n=11) | Tachycardia | Erythrocyte sedimentation rate | Albumin ... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3193174/

Peer comment(s):

neutral diana bb : 'Not reported' and 'patient denies' are two very different things.
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does not support

More context required. But if it is in the context of doing tests on a patient to confirm a diagnosis, with a negative result ("Geltą neigia."), then I think the best way to express it is to say that the test "does not support" (e.g. a diagnosis of jaundice).
Peer comment(s):

neutral Valters Feists : I don't think jaundice (as a symptom) itself is diagnosed in some special test or exam. Jaundice is simply reported or not reported.
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neutral Rita Vaicekonyte : It's past medical history as asked by the Dr and answered by the patient. "Denies" is the standard term in this context, as patient may never have had x disease, or may have had it but didn't know that, or they may be maliciously lying. Covers all options
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