Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
cortes en la solapa
English translation:
separate lapels
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Eileen Brophy
Jan 5, 2018 22:05
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Spanish term
cortes en la solapa
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How can I say this in English please?
I don't know what "cortes" means in this context, I know "solapa" means lapels, but "cortes"??
Thank you for any help
I don't know what "cortes" means in this context, I know "solapa" means lapels, but "cortes"??
Thank you for any help
Proposed translations
(English)
4 | separate lapels | Charles Davis |
4 +1 | notched lapels | Marie Wilson |
3 +1 | lapel angle cuts | David Hollywood |
3 | slits in the placket/flap | Andrew Bramhall |
References
cortes en la solapa | JohnMcDove |
Proposed translations
11 hrs
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separate lapels
All the images I can find of garments with "cortes en la solapa" have lapels that are separate from the collar; in other words, there is a "cut" between the collar and the lapel that extends right to the inner edge, the fold, so that you can have the collar completely turned up and the lapels lying flat. The examples John has posted show this clearly. Here's a close-up of the collar on the first one:
https://cdn-images.farfetch-contents.com/11/85/97/42/1185974...
This is a relative of standard notch lapels, which have a V-shaped indentation, but the notch doesn't extend right to the edge, so if you turn the collar up you will inevitably lift the lapels up a bit too (if you see what I mean).
The standard Spanish term for notch lapel seems to be solapa de muesca. See here; the three main types, redonda (shawl), de muesca (notched) and de pico (peaked), are illustrated about halfway down:
http://www.proyectomoda.com/puntos-basicos-del-haute-couture...
In English the images I can find of lapels like those described as "cortes en la solapa" are called "separate lapels", though in the first examples the expression "notch separate lapels" is used. But not just "notch":
"Men's sport overcoat, double breasted eight buttons three to use, notch separate lapels, fitted sleeves, extremely slim body, straps on cuff"
http://www.geniustailor.com/images/shop/387.jpg
Same description for these:
http://www.geniustailor.com/images/shop/384.jpg
They're on this page:
http://www.geniustailor.com/styles.php?c=70&p=10
Here a women's jacket:
"Description: Semi-fitted princess seamed jackets A, B have separate lapels, flared peplums and sleeve variations."
Look at the first picture on the page:
http://suzybeesews.blogspot.com.es/2011/09/mccalls-5936.html
Another:
"A partial lining (the sleeves are unlined), a simple collar and separate lapels"
The fifth picture on the page gives the best view of the lapels.
http://www.110creations.com/2014/05/pink-ponte-blazer.html
https://cdn-images.farfetch-contents.com/11/85/97/42/1185974...
This is a relative of standard notch lapels, which have a V-shaped indentation, but the notch doesn't extend right to the edge, so if you turn the collar up you will inevitably lift the lapels up a bit too (if you see what I mean).
The standard Spanish term for notch lapel seems to be solapa de muesca. See here; the three main types, redonda (shawl), de muesca (notched) and de pico (peaked), are illustrated about halfway down:
http://www.proyectomoda.com/puntos-basicos-del-haute-couture...
In English the images I can find of lapels like those described as "cortes en la solapa" are called "separate lapels", though in the first examples the expression "notch separate lapels" is used. But not just "notch":
"Men's sport overcoat, double breasted eight buttons three to use, notch separate lapels, fitted sleeves, extremely slim body, straps on cuff"
http://www.geniustailor.com/images/shop/387.jpg
Same description for these:
http://www.geniustailor.com/images/shop/384.jpg
They're on this page:
http://www.geniustailor.com/styles.php?c=70&p=10
Here a women's jacket:
"Description: Semi-fitted princess seamed jackets A, B have separate lapels, flared peplums and sleeve variations."
Look at the first picture on the page:
http://suzybeesews.blogspot.com.es/2011/09/mccalls-5936.html
Another:
"A partial lining (the sleeves are unlined), a simple collar and separate lapels"
The fifth picture on the page gives the best view of the lapels.
http://www.110creations.com/2014/05/pink-ponte-blazer.html
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Comment: "Thank you very much Charles for your help, that was not at all easy for me."
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7 mins
lapel angle cuts
I would suggest
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https://www.thepeaklapel.com/.../the-must-read-guide-to-suit...
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13 sept. 2017 - Cutting a proper peak(ed) lapel, though, is a very difficult task (hence, very often an increased cost), so make sure that the lapel looks right before you buy the suit. Often the angle of the "peak," or the proportions can look off. While a nice peak(ed) lapel makes a suit look super sharp and classy, an oddly ...
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or just: lapel cuts/cut of the lapel
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Note added at 14 mins (2018-01-05 22:20:46 GMT)
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https://www.thepeaklapel.com/.../the-must-read-guide-to-suit...
Traducir esta página
13 sept. 2017 - Cutting a proper peak(ed) lapel, though, is a very difficult task (hence, very often an increased cost), so make sure that the lapel looks right before you buy the suit. Often the angle of the "peak," or the proportions can look off. While a nice peak(ed) lapel makes a suit look super sharp and classy, an oddly ...
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Note added at 22 mins (2018-01-05 22:28:35 GMT)
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or just: lapel cuts/cut of the lapel
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slits in the placket/flap
Don't think its ' lapel' here, and 'cortes' are probably ' ranuras';
unable to post the Google link unfortunately, but if you google ' cortes en la solapa', it could convince you.
unable to post the Google link unfortunately, but if you google ' cortes en la solapa', it could convince you.
Note from asker:
Sorry Oliver but I can't see "solapa" referring to anything else than the lapels of a jacket.... |
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10 hrs
notched lapels
If you look at images, "cortes en la solapa" refers to the form of the lapel.
Look here:https://www.farfetch.com/es/shopping/women/maison-margiela-g... , which is probably the same as John has put in his reference. You can clearly see the kind of lapel.
A similar image:
http://www.droplu.com/shop/womens/trench-coat-with-notched-l...
Image result for types of lapelswww.realmenrealstyle.com
First, a little background: For those that may need a refresher, the lapel of a man's suit is the folded flap of cloth on a jacket. Typically, it is formed by folding over the front edges of the jacket and sewing to the collar. There are actually (3) types of lapels – notched, peaked, and shawl.Oct 23, 2013
Notched lapel versus peaked lapels | Bespoke Edge Blog
https://blog.bespokeedge.com/2013/10/notched-lapel-versus-pe...
Peaked lapel would be "solapa de pico" so I think this is notched lapel.
Look here:https://www.farfetch.com/es/shopping/women/maison-margiela-g... , which is probably the same as John has put in his reference. You can clearly see the kind of lapel.
A similar image:
http://www.droplu.com/shop/womens/trench-coat-with-notched-l...
Image result for types of lapelswww.realmenrealstyle.com
First, a little background: For those that may need a refresher, the lapel of a man's suit is the folded flap of cloth on a jacket. Typically, it is formed by folding over the front edges of the jacket and sewing to the collar. There are actually (3) types of lapels – notched, peaked, and shawl.Oct 23, 2013
Notched lapel versus peaked lapels | Bespoke Edge Blog
https://blog.bespokeedge.com/2013/10/notched-lapel-versus-pe...
Peaked lapel would be "solapa de pico" so I think this is notched lapel.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
neilmac
: Am no tailor, but I prefer this, no reason, just because. No idea if it's "right" ot not.
1 hr
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Thanks, Neil!
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Reference comments
5 hrs
Reference:
cortes en la solapa
When we talk about "cortes en la solapa", that is what we are talking about,
https://www.farfetch.com/es/shopping/women/maison-margiela-g...
http://www.gap.eu/browse/product.do?pid=000845404000&vid=1&p...
Hope it helps!
https://www.farfetch.com/es/shopping/women/maison-margiela-g...
http://www.gap.eu/browse/product.do?pid=000845404000&vid=1&p...
Hope it helps!
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