Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

pomme fruit

English translation:

apple

Added to glossary by Tony M
Jun 6, 2017 04:54
6 yrs ago
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French term

pommes fruit

Non-PRO French to English Marketing Cooking / Culinary menu
Hi,

On a menu:

"Les îles:
Salade de crevettes et pommes fruit au curry"

Is this just to say that the apples, are indeed....fruit? :)

I've noticed that "pommes" on menus sometimes mean "pommes de terre", so maybe this is just to make that clear

I'm slightly confused and would appreciate your help!

Thank you.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +3 apple
3 fruit apples
Change log

Jun 12, 2017 05:55: Tony M Created KOG entry

Discussion

Louisa Tchaicha (asker) Jun 6, 2017:
@writeaway not always, for example under "plats chauds" you have "Pomme au four crème de ciboulette"
writeaway Jun 6, 2017:
Asker's menu does make the distinction Salade créole : pommes de terre, bananes, câpres, olives vinaigrette
Salade de crevettes et pommes fruit au curry
Louisa Tchaicha (asker) Jun 6, 2017:
it may be "Shrimp salad and curried apples"

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): pomme fruit
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apple

Yes, as you say, it is just to differentiate it from 'pomme (de terre)' — however, it isn't necessary — or desirable — to do so in EN, where no ambiguity exists.

Note also:
pomme à couteau = dessert apple, eating apple, "eater"
pomme verte = cooking apple (not strictly speaking, just a bit more acidic than a dessert apple, but in practice, in most cases it amounts to the same thing) — if not being cooked, then 'tart apple' will often do.

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Also like mrrafe, I would expect the whole dish to be probably curried — could even be some kind of curry mayonnaise...

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Note added at 5 heures (2017-06-06 10:07:46 GMT)
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Paradoxically, menu writers do often specify 'pomme fruit', as W/A points out, even when used alongside 'pomme de terre' (in full).

I think there is a tendency to always want to complete an expression, so as not to leave one poor little word all on its own; cf. 'croissant au beurre' vs. 'croissant pâtissier' (= croissant not made with butter, i.e. margarine!!) — when I asked the baker why she didn't call it simply a 'croissant', or a 'croissant au margarine', she just shrugged in that Gallic way!
Note from asker:
Thank you so much!
Peer comment(s):

agree Sarah Bessioud
39 mins
Thanks, Sarah!
agree Victoria Britten : With you on what is being curried here, too.
2 hrs
Thanks, Victoria!
agree B D Finch
3 hrs
Thanks, B! :-)
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18 mins

fruit apples

Yes, I think they are distinguishing pommes fruit from pommes de terre. In the video, we have both.

Initially I thought they might be saying the salad is a fruit salad, it might be a fruit salad, but that should be salade DE fruit.

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Note added at 20 mins (2017-06-06 05:15:13 GMT)
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*delete [it might be a fruit salad], sorry*

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-06 06:35:06 GMT)
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In the salad section - well, US has fruit salads in the salad section. But I still think what they're trying to say is, no potatoes.
Note from asker:
Thanks mrrafe!
no, not a fruit salad as it's in the salad section and not the dessert section :)
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Although that's not incorrect, we'd never express it like that in EN.
56 mins
Absolutely so, thank you - if they're not pommes de terre, we would just say apples, because EN doesn't have the pomme de terre problem. I was making a point instead of giving a good translation.
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