Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Prefectura Civil del Municipio Arias
English translation:
Civil Prefecture [of the xx municipality]
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BettinaVaamonde
Mar 26, 2017 16:57
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Spanish term
Canada
Prefectura Civil del Municipio Arias
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
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Acta de Matrimonio Venezolana
Prefectura Civil del Municipio Arias
Dentro de las preguntas está “Prefectura del Municipio Libertador” y la traducción es “Chief Administrative Officer”.
Ahora bien, como sería la traducción para “Prefectura CIVIL del Municipio…”?
Prefectura Civil del Municipio Arias
Dentro de las preguntas está “Prefectura del Municipio Libertador” y la traducción es “Chief Administrative Officer”.
Ahora bien, como sería la traducción para “Prefectura CIVIL del Municipio…”?
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | Civil Prefecture [of the xx municipality] |
Taña Dalglish
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References
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Proposed translations
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Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
Native in English
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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24
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Civil Prefecture [of the xx municipality]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefecture#Venezuelan_equivale...
Venezuelan equivalent [edit]
Traditionally the prefecture as being the City Hall and the prefect as being the equivalent of a mayor and commissioner until recently; now the prefectures and prefect are analogous with the figure of Town Clerk.
And Phil is correct: Prefectura del Municipio Libertador” is not “Chief Administrative Officer”. The Prefectura is "Prefecture", a body/entity, not a person.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/law_contracts/3...
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: Municipio Libertador del Distrito Capital
English translation: Libertador Municipality of the Capital District
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Gracias.
Venezuelan equivalent [edit]
Traditionally the prefecture as being the City Hall and the prefect as being the equivalent of a mayor and commissioner until recently; now the prefectures and prefect are analogous with the figure of Town Clerk.
And Phil is correct: Prefectura del Municipio Libertador” is not “Chief Administrative Officer”. The Prefectura is "Prefecture", a body/entity, not a person.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/law_contracts/3...
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: Municipio Libertador del Distrito Capital
English translation: Libertador Municipality of the Capital District
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Note added at 1 day19 hrs (2017-03-28 12:51:35 GMT) Post-grading
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Gracias.
Note from asker:
| Thank you Taña |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
AllegroTrans
: yes, a Prefecture is a Prefecture is a Prefecture; it is wrong to try to "localise" the term
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Thanks again Chris.
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Robert Carter
: Agree with Chris, we had this a couple of months back http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/law_general/623...
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Thanks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Reference comments
7 mins
Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
Native in English
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
24
Reference:
Ref. in glossary
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/certificates_di...
Context:
Spanish term or phrase: prefectura civil
Lo que suscrie, Secretaria de la Prefectura Civil de la Parroquia Santa María, Municipio Ribero, estado Sucre ...
NOT civil prefecture - something else, please!!!
civil prefecture
Explanation:
I'm aware that a "prefectura civil" is a "municipio", but there is something lost in the process of simplification.
A "prefectura civil" is the counterpart of a "prefectura militar", and originally "prefecturas militares" were granted in custody to a religious group, and thus they became a "prefectura civil".
In this case, the "Prefectura Civil" is not any municipality, but the "Prefectura Civil de la Parroquia de Santa María".
I know that for legal matters it is probably the same to denominate it "Municipality" or "Civil Prefecture", but I feel that there will be something forever lost if we choose to translate it for its current equivalent, and not for the old-fashioned, perhaps farfetched, literal equivalent.
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agree Lisa Mann: civil prefecture is commonly used and accepted (as Mónica's sources show)
Even if you don't like it.
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Note added at 10 mins (2017-03-26 17:07:35 GMT)
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/government_poli...
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: prefecto y prefectura
English translation: Prefect and Prefecture
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Prefecture - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefecture
A prefecture (from the Latin Praefectura) is an administrative jurisdiction or subdivision in any of various countries and within some international church ...
Context:
Spanish term or phrase: prefectura civil
Lo que suscrie, Secretaria de la Prefectura Civil de la Parroquia Santa María, Municipio Ribero, estado Sucre ...
NOT civil prefecture - something else, please!!!
civil prefecture
Explanation:
I'm aware that a "prefectura civil" is a "municipio", but there is something lost in the process of simplification.
A "prefectura civil" is the counterpart of a "prefectura militar", and originally "prefecturas militares" were granted in custody to a religious group, and thus they became a "prefectura civil".
In this case, the "Prefectura Civil" is not any municipality, but the "Prefectura Civil de la Parroquia de Santa María".
I know that for legal matters it is probably the same to denominate it "Municipality" or "Civil Prefecture", but I feel that there will be something forever lost if we choose to translate it for its current equivalent, and not for the old-fashioned, perhaps farfetched, literal equivalent.
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agree Lisa Mann: civil prefecture is commonly used and accepted (as Mónica's sources show)
Even if you don't like it.
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Note added at 10 mins (2017-03-26 17:07:35 GMT)
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/government_poli...
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: prefecto y prefectura
English translation: Prefect and Prefecture
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Note added at 12 mins (2017-03-26 17:09:14 GMT)
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Prefecture - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefecture
A prefecture (from the Latin Praefectura) is an administrative jurisdiction or subdivision in any of various countries and within some international church ...
Note from asker:
| Thank you Taña |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
AllegroTrans
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Thank you Chris.
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philgoddard
: Civil prefecture is fine.
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Thank you.
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Robert Carter
: Interestingly, the key here is that in Venezuela the "prefecto" is appointed by the federal administration, while the "alcalde" is a local elected figure.
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Thank you.
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