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English term or phrase:
premix
Serbian translation:
gotova mešavina
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Bogdan Petrovic
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premix
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Construction activities with potential to directly affect the ambient air quality by generating fugitive dust, fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10) and exhaust emissions (NO2) from machinery are the following: construction plant and delivery of concrete (premix)...
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Mira Stepanovic
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gotova mešavina
v. reference comment
gotova mešavina betona (ili asfalta ili beton-asfalta...) koja se isporučuje iz fabrike betona (ili fabrike asfalta) u odgovarajućim vozilima (ne spravlja se na licu mesta, na gradilištu).
https://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
КОНКУРСНА ДОКУМЕНТАЦИЈA ЗА ЈАВНУ НАБАВКУ ДОБАРА
ГОТОВ БЕТОН
на годишњем нивоу
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• Транспорт готовог бетона (мешавине) ауто миксерима који су опремљени мешалицама
- стална контрола квалитета готове мешавине бетона
gotova mešavina betona (ili asfalta ili beton-asfalta...) koja se isporučuje iz fabrike betona (ili fabrike asfalta) u odgovarajućim vozilima (ne spravlja se na licu mesta, na gradilištu).
https://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
КОНКУРСНА ДОКУМЕНТАЦИЈA ЗА ЈАВНУ НАБАВКУ ДОБАРА
ГОТОВ БЕТОН
на годишњем нивоу
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• Транспорт готовог бетона (мешавине) ауто миксерима који су опремљени мешалицама
- стална контрола квалитета готове мешавине бетона
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Natasa Stankovic
: Da, tako je preciznije - sa dodatkom "gotova".
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Hvala Nataša, upravo "gotova" određuje tačno značenje pojma "premix".
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Comment: "Хвала!"
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predsmeša
Obično se koristi za životinjsku hranu, ali ne vidim razloga da se ne bi moglo koristiti i u ovom slučaju...
Peer comment(s):
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Mira Stepanovic
: Razlog: te dve oblasti (stočarstvo i građevinarstvo) su toliko različite da analogija jednostavno nije primenljiva. :-)
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premix - premiks (polustabilna emulzija)
Vukičević Branko - Građevinski Rečnik
https://www.scribd.com/doc/156970918/Vukicevic-Branko-Gradje...
https://www.scribd.com/doc/156970918/Vukicevic-Branko-Gradje...
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Mira Stepanovic
: OK: "polustabilna emulzija" je jedan od mogućih prevoda ali nikako ne odgovara značenju za "premix" u navedenom kontekstu u kome ima sasvim drugačije značenje, v. reference comment.
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"3.4 Encouraging an asker to choose one's own suggested translation, or peers to agree with one's own answers and/or disagree with answers provided by others, is prohibited." http://www.proz.com/siterules/kudoz_answ/3.4#3.4
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Daryo
: citiranje pravila nije nikakav dokaz
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Naprotiv, Vaše lično mišljenje bez referenci nije nikakav dokaz: "3.3 A peer comment must be based on linguistic evaluations of the answer..." http://www.proz.com/siterules/kudoz_answ/3.3#3.3
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(suva) mešavina
Pošto se radi o uticaju na kvalitet vazduha, mislim da je ovde reč o suvoj mešavini betona.
19.2 Mašine za prskanje suvim postupkom
Mašina za prskanje suvih mešavina betona osrednjih kapaciteta koja se takođe koristi kod ograničenih i skučenih prostora funkcionisanja. Izlazni kapacitet je 3,5-11 m3/h suve mešavine.
https://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
BUILD magazin
- Postoje suvi i mokri postupak ugradnje torkret-betona. U suvom se cement i agregat mešaju u mašini, suva mešavina se potiska kompresovanim vazduhom, a voda za hidrataciju se dodaje na završetku creva prilikom izbacivanja mešavine, dok se u mokrom postupku mešavina priprema sa svom neophodnom vodom i takođe se pumpa crevima.
http://www.buildmagazin.com/index.aspx?fld=tekstovi&ime=bm04...
Guranje mešavine može se izvoditi pneumatskim putem. Oprema je na električni i pneumatski pogon. Savremeni aparati se sastoje od više silosa sa pumpom za svaki pojedinačno. Silosima se doprema suva mešavina na gradilište, gde se pre ugradnje meša sa vodom.
http://www.gramak.com/masine specijalne nemene.html
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: premix - i.e. "delivered ready mixed" doesn't prejudge the type of concrete / there is NOTHING to say that just because concrete is premixed it must be automatically dry concrete
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Apsolutno neargumentovano! Moj predlog je „mešavina" i dopunski (razmatranjem konteksta) mislim da je suva, jer „wet concrete“ ne stvara nikakvu prašinu, niti zagađuje vazduh - za razliku od „dry“. Proverite sa nekim stručnim za to, ja jesam ;-)
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Mira Stepanovic
: Ne znam da li sam po vama dovoljno stručna kao građevinski inženjer ali ovde nije u pitanju suva mešavina; nije poenta u načinu spravljanja betona već kako se gotova mešavina isporučuje iz fabrike na gradilište. :-) Nažalost nije OK, mešavina = mixture.
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Ako je ta gotova mešavina koja se isporučuje iz fabrike na gradilište u suvom stanju, postoji mogućnost stvaranja „fugitive dust, fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10)“ - na to sam mislila. BTW, mislim da je prevod premix = mešavina u svakom slučaju OK.
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English term (edited):
delivery of concrete (premix)
испоруке бетона (у камионима с мешалицама)
Construction activities with potential to directly affect the ambient air quality by generating fugitive dust, fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10) and exhaust emissions (NO2) from machinery are the following: construction plant and delivery of concrete (premix)
Construction activities with potential to directly affect the ambient air quality by generating fugitive dust, fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10) and exhaust emissions (NO2) from machinery are the following: construction plant and delivery of concrete (premix)
fugitive dust,
Fugitive dust is particulate matter which becomes airborne, is not emitted from a stack or vent, and has the potential to adversely affect human health or the environment. High levels of dust particles often originate from agricultural, mining, construction and manufacturing activities.
Fugitive Dust - Pima County
webcms.pima.gov/cms/One.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=54362
= clouds of dusts created by moving vehicles
fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10) and exhaust emissions (NO2) = all pollution from vehicle engines
as confirmed by what follows9
"from machinery", the list of which includes
-- construction plant => used on building sites = грађевинске машине
-- delivery of concrete (premix) = pollution from vehicles delivering premixed concrete to building sites
the text is about the pollution from vehicles - from their engines and the dust vehicles generate.
у питању је прашина коју подижу грађевинске машине и камиони с мешалицама који испоручују бетон (било које врсте) и загађење од њихових мотора
Construction activities with potential to directly affect the ambient air quality by generating fugitive dust, fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10) and exhaust emissions (NO2) from machinery are the following: construction plant and delivery of concrete (premix)
fugitive dust,
Fugitive dust is particulate matter which becomes airborne, is not emitted from a stack or vent, and has the potential to adversely affect human health or the environment. High levels of dust particles often originate from agricultural, mining, construction and manufacturing activities.
Fugitive Dust - Pima County
webcms.pima.gov/cms/One.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=54362
= clouds of dusts created by moving vehicles
fine particulate matter (PM2.5, PM10) and exhaust emissions (NO2) = all pollution from vehicle engines
as confirmed by what follows9
"from machinery", the list of which includes
-- construction plant => used on building sites = грађевинске машине
-- delivery of concrete (premix) = pollution from vehicles delivering premixed concrete to building sites
the text is about the pollution from vehicles - from their engines and the dust vehicles generate.
у питању је прашина коју подижу грађевинске машине и камиони с мешалицама који испоручују бетон (било које врсте) и загађење од њихових мотора
Peer comment(s):
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Mira Stepanovic
: To jeste generalni smisao rečenice ali nigde nema termina koji se traži. :-) / Ne isporučuje se vozilo (... and delivery of concrete (premix)...) već beton (gotova mešavina).
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термин јесте тај који одговара ОВОМ тексту // цео текст је о возилима као изворима загађења ваздуха - "premix" је скраћена верзија за "premix lorry" / не би било први пут да писац једноставно изостави оно што је "очигледно" (њему, не преводиоцима)
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Reference comments
22 hrs
Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
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Reference:
Premix
http://www.aboutcivil.org/premix-types-uses-purposes.html
Premix - Types of Premix - Purpose, Uses, Applications of Premixes
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Definition:
Something that is mixed or blended from two or more ingredients or elements before being used. This term is used usually for concrete in civil engineering.
Types of premix
Sheet Asphalt
Asphalt concrete
Prime-coat
Tack-coat
Dakle radi se o isporuci "gotovih" mešavina (betona, asfalt-betona, asfalta) - zavisi šta se gradi, tj. o exhaust emissions (NO2) from machinery - izduvnim gasovima koje stvaraju mašine/vozila prilikom isporuke gotovih mešavina na mesto ugradnje (gradilište).
Premix - Types of Premix - Purpose, Uses, Applications of Premixes
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Definition:
Something that is mixed or blended from two or more ingredients or elements before being used. This term is used usually for concrete in civil engineering.
Types of premix
Sheet Asphalt
Asphalt concrete
Prime-coat
Tack-coat
Dakle radi se o isporuci "gotovih" mešavina (betona, asfalt-betona, asfalta) - zavisi šta se gradi, tj. o exhaust emissions (NO2) from machinery - izduvnim gasovima koje stvaraju mašine/vozila prilikom isporuke gotovih mešavina na mesto ugradnje (gradilište).
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Daryo
: da ... o isporuci "gotovih" mešavina tj. o vozilima koja ... ??? vozila izbacuju NO2 ne cement
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Pa naravno, to sam i napisala koliko vidim. :-)
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