Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

debe ser admitida a platica

English translation:

which should be admitted to pratique

Added to glossary by Gordon Byron
Apr 17, 2016 06:32
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Spanish term

debe ser admitida a platica

Spanish to English Art/Literary Idioms / Maxims / Sayings 19th century sea-faring documents
I'm translating from 19th century documents relating to the presence of the American Navy in the Port of Mahon. There are numerous extracts from ships logs, contemporary diaries and so on. This extract comes from a diary written in 1816 in Mahon by a Menorcan historian/man of letters.



Extract from diary 1816:

La fragata del commodoro Shaw, debiendo ser admitida a plática, bajo hasta delante de la Aduana donde ha fondeado y está siendo aparejada.

The context is a dispute between the Customs house and Shaw's frigate regarding reembarcation of its cargo without paying an enormous fee. The gesture is threatening and at this point it's who blinks first...

so the phrase is: "debe ser admitida a platica"

Is anyone familiar with the phrase? I see it as something like "has become a conversation piece..." "is a talking point" ..at a stretch - "...is on everyone's lips..."
Thanks for any good ideas
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which should be admitted to pratique

The term "plática" is translated as "pratique" in the maritime dictionary (link below), and is the certificate/permission given for a boat upon confirmation that there are no contagious diseases are on board.

This would seem to make sense, considering the context.

See also this link showing 18th century text where the same expression "admitted to pratique" is used.
Note from asker:
Thanks so much! Exactly what was needed. Much appreciated.
Peer comment(s):

agree Charles Davis : Well done! A libre plática in this sense is also in the DRAE. And "admitted to free pratique" is (was) also used in English.
1 hr
Thank you Charles!
agree Vika Lex : Plática matches with Pratique: Spanish Royal Academy Dictionary refers to libre plática in regard to "un buque cuando admitido a comunicación, o pasado la cuarentena, o dispensando de esta"
4 hrs
Thank you Vika!
agree philgoddard : Depending on the context, it may need an explanation in brackets. I'd never heard of this.
5 hrs
Thanks Phil, it is an unusual term I agree.
agree Marcelo González
8 hrs
Gracias Marcelo!
agree Christian [email protected] : Todos los días aprendo algo nuevo.
1 day 10 hrs
Gracias Christian
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