Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
vaciamiento de la palabra
English translation:
Devoid of meaning, words ...
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Mónica Algazi
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Spanish term
vaciamiento de la palabra
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Journalism
Article about an artist
Context:
Por último corresponde citar la obra "Equis" (2011) en la que, obedeciendo a una simplificación minimalista en sus instalaciones —intención que cobra mayor énfasis desde finales de la década de 1990—, [artist's name] lleva a su extremo conceptual la operación con la escritura al desplazarla fuera del código convencional y convertirla en puro signo de un alfabeto cifrado en clave desconocida. Este vaciamiento de la palabra, ilegible como tal, cobra además cierta virtualidad inmaterial al estar realizada con luz de tubos de neón coloreada, aspectos que coadyuvan para poner en evidencia la naturaleza simbólica del lenguaje y, en consecuencia, para volver, en un acto de despojo radical, al «grado cero de la escritura».
TIA!
Por último corresponde citar la obra "Equis" (2011) en la que, obedeciendo a una simplificación minimalista en sus instalaciones —intención que cobra mayor énfasis desde finales de la década de 1990—, [artist's name] lleva a su extremo conceptual la operación con la escritura al desplazarla fuera del código convencional y convertirla en puro signo de un alfabeto cifrado en clave desconocida. Este vaciamiento de la palabra, ilegible como tal, cobra además cierta virtualidad inmaterial al estar realizada con luz de tubos de neón coloreada, aspectos que coadyuvan para poner en evidencia la naturaleza simbólica del lenguaje y, en consecuencia, para volver, en un acto de despojo radical, al «grado cero de la escritura».
TIA!
Proposed translations
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The word thus devoid of meaning
Le daría una vuelta de tuerca para transmitir el sentido del original:
The word thus devoid/emptied of meaning...<i/>
Creo que las claves para entender la frase están en "convertirla en puro signo", "poner en evidencia la naturaleza simbólica del lenguaje", ya que se alude a los tres componentes del signo linguístico, del que habla Barthes: el significante, el significado y el referente. Al abolir el significado, se elimina también el referente y queda el significante vacío. El significante puro [como lo es un idioma o código inventado] demuestra que la lengua es un código convencional y arbitrario.
IMO
HTH
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De nada, Mónica. Un gusto.
The word thus devoid/emptied of meaning...<i/>
Creo que las claves para entender la frase están en "convertirla en puro signo", "poner en evidencia la naturaleza simbólica del lenguaje", ya que se alude a los tres componentes del signo linguístico, del que habla Barthes: el significante, el significado y el referente. Al abolir el significado, se elimina también el referente y queda el significante vacío. El significante puro [como lo es un idioma o código inventado] demuestra que la lengua es un código convencional y arbitrario.
IMO
HTH
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De nada, Mónica. Un gusto.
Note from asker:
| ¡Me encantó! Gracias, Marina. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "En realidad, usé una combinación de la propuesta tuya y la de Cecilia (cgowar). ¡Gracias a todos!"
+1
12 mins
emptying of language
Derrida?
P.
P.
Note from asker:
| Gracias, P. Forgas. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: Lots of possibilities, but you were first, and as "vaciamento" has an exact English equivalent you may as well use it.
4 hrs
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+1
12 mins
Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
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60
stripping down of words
As ever with art waffle, the intended meaning is a little obscure. This is my fairly loose interpretation. I think "la palabra" is being used to mean "the word" as a concept, for which I'd prefer to use the plural, "words".
Note from asker:
| The best so far. Thank you, Simon! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carol Gullidge
: … although I actually believe this is about the visual impact of words - as images rather than about the concept of words or language. I is as if the written words had been emptied out and reconstructed into illegible ciphers. So this isn't a total Agree!
1 hr
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23 mins
Denis Zabelin
Belarus
Belarus
Belarus
professional and reliable
Native in: Belarusian 
, Russian
Works in: Spanish to Russian, English to Russian, English to Spanish, and 7 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
language impoverishment
One more suggestion.
https://www.quora.com/What-has-caused-the-impoverishment-of-...
https://www.quora.com/What-has-caused-the-impoverishment-of-...
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Sidewinder. |
1 hr
Adoración Bodoque Martínez
Ireland
Ireland
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Ireland
B.A. Eng. & Ling., DipTrans IoLET, MCIL
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Standard-Spain) 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
4
(These) contentless signs
Another option.
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Adoración! |
1 hr
Toni Castano
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Spain
PER ASPERA AD ASTRA
Native in: Spanish
Works in: German to Spanish, Spanish to German, English to Spanish, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
depersonalization of the language/word(s)
This is my interpretation. The word, the language deprived of its fundamental function, communication, and being used as a mere symbol of an unknown alphabet.
By the way, it sounds like Roland Barthes´ Writing Degree Zero, but this is less relevant.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/depersonalization
tr.v. de·per·son·al·ize
1. To deprive of individual character or a sense of personal identity
2. To render impersonal
By the way, it sounds like Roland Barthes´ Writing Degree Zero, but this is less relevant.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/depersonalization
tr.v. de·per·son·al·ize
1. To deprive of individual character or a sense of personal identity
2. To render impersonal
Note from asker:
| En efecto, en el artículo se hace todo el tiempo un paralelismo entre la obra de este hombre y la de R. Barthes. ¡Gracias, Tony! |
1 hr
Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
I read the Alethiometer
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
68
ver explicación
"Deprived of meaning, these words (......) acquire also....."
Creo que queda mejor en inglés usar la palabra como sujeto, en lugar del vaciamiento. El sentido es el mismo.
Creo que queda mejor en inglés usar la palabra como sujeto, en lugar del vaciamiento. El sentido es el mismo.
Note from asker:
| También me encanta. ¡Gracias, Cecilia! |
+1
1 hr
hollowing out of the word
I understand it as leaving the word devoid of meaning, leaving nothing but its shell.
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Franglish. |
18 hrs
emptying words of their meaning (in this way)
...and rendering them indecipherable
The writer is talking about (albeit impossible) WORDS so I think language does not work here.
The writer is talking about (albeit impossible) WORDS so I think language does not work here.
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Ormiston. |
+2
16 mins
Robert Forstag
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Translating words, preserving meaning
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
Related KudoZ points
:
87
evisceration of conventional language
Or, instead of "evisceration," "disembowelment."
"Palabra" calls for a translation other than simply "word" as it stands for "traditional/conventional language" in this context.
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I do not think that "stripping down" works here. The idea is certainly "emptying of content" here but "emptying" or "stripping" really don't work (at least in my view). "Evisceration" has the figurative meaning of "depriving of vital/essential force," and therefore would seem to fit well here....
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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2016-04-09 19:08:12 GMT)
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An alternative option here would be "act of voiding conventional language," given that both senses of the verb "to void" apply here (namely emptying/draining and invalidating/canceling), thus robustly reflecting vacimiento.
"Palabra" calls for a translation other than simply "word" as it stands for "traditional/conventional language" in this context.
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Note added at 1 hr (2016-04-08 15:50:37 GMT)
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I do not think that "stripping down" works here. The idea is certainly "emptying of content" here but "emptying" or "stripping" really don't work (at least in my view). "Evisceration" has the figurative meaning of "depriving of vital/essential force," and therefore would seem to fit well here....
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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2016-04-09 19:08:12 GMT)
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An alternative option here would be "act of voiding conventional language," given that both senses of the verb "to void" apply here (namely emptying/draining and invalidating/canceling), thus robustly reflecting vacimiento.
Note from asker:
| How about stripping down of (conventional) language, Robert? I find eviscerations/disembowelment slightly 'anátomopatológicoquirúrgico'... : ( |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
liz askew
: I like "evisceration"
4 hrs
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Thank you, Liz.
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| agree |
Muriel Vasconcellos
9 hrs
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Thank you, Muriel!
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