Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

playing off

English answer:

implicitly contrasting this meaning of the expression with its usual sense (to underline the point)

Added to glossary by Ana Juliá
Mar 2, 2016 12:49
8 yrs ago
English term

playing off

English Art/Literary Religion About the book of Proverbs
Proverbs 11:30: The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and whoever captures souls is wise.
The Hebrew phrase translated whoever captures souls is used elsewhere in places where the sense is “to take life” or “to kill” (e.g., 1 Sam. 24:11; 1 Kings 19:10, 14; Jonah 4:3). However, this proverb appears to be purposely ***playing off*** the usual sense of the phrase to focus on the effect of the fruit of the righteous. The life of the righteous leads not only to blessing for themselves but also provides fruit that “captures souls” in the sense of leading people out of the path that ends in death. For similar declarations, cf. Dan. 12:3, equating “those who are wise” to “those who turn many to righteousness”; see also James 5:20, where the one “who brings back a sinner
from his wandering” will “save his soul from death.”

Discussion

Charles Davis Mar 2, 2016:
I've just removed my comment, by the way.
Charles Davis Mar 2, 2016:
@Phil I was joking! Hence the smiley face. I wasn't referring to you disagreeing with me, in fact I didn't really take you to be disagreeing with me at all; I was referring (jokingly) to what Gallagy was referring to, namely your very harsh verdict on this writer, which I took (from your smiley face) to include a measure of jocular exaggeration. So please don't be so prickly; there's no call for it.

Maybe you're right that it simply means "depart from". That was in fact my own first thought. I rejected it, because I don't think this writer is bad enough to use such an utterly inappropriate verb to make such a simple point that is already implicit in what he/she has said. My reading, which implies an imprecise use of "play off" in its usual sense but a degree of sophistication perfectly compatible, in my view, with what I read here, is more convincing to me, because apart from this verb the writing here is perfectly all right and not remotely difficult to understand. But if you don't agree, I shan't be offended :)
philgoddard Mar 2, 2016:
Charles What a strange thing to say! If I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I'm in a bad mood, it means I have a different opinion to you. We are allowed to do that, aren't we?
In my opinion, all we can do is make guesses here. This author has an odd style that's difficult to understand. It's not "wordplay" in my opinion, it's bad writing.
There's another interpretation, which I think is simpler and perhaps more likely than yours: "play off" means "depart from".

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implicitly contrasting this meaning of the expression with its usual sense (to underline the point)

This verb, I think, is being used in a somewhat intuitive way, and I see two ideas implicit in it.

First, in terms of its dictionary definition, the sense of "set in opposition" is present. If you play two things off against each other, you set them in opposition to each other, you contrast them. This is relevant, because the way the Hebrew expression is being used here, "capturing souls", diverges widely from killing and there is a contrast there that the reader is expected to notice.

That contrast, because the expression is being used in an unusual sense, will tend to underline the point being made in the verse, and is intended to do so. The reader is expected to have both meanings in his/her mind and be conscious of how they are being "played off".

At the same time, there is a kind of wordplay in this, because an expression which normally means one thing is being used in a different sense, and I think the word "play" in the verb probably carries a suggestion of verbal play: playing on meanings.
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : This is a charitable interpretation. The uncharitable one is that this person can't write, and only they know what they're talking about :-)
16 mins
This particular bit is not well expressed, though the rest of the passage seems all right to me. I think something like what I've outlined was probably in the writer's mind, given that he/she has just explained the usual meaning of the phrase.
agree Yvonne Gallagher : yes, contrasting and playing with the meaning(s) of the word "capture". I don't really see why Phil has a problem with this?
39 mins
Many thanks! I do think the writer could have made it clearer.
agree Robert Forstag
48 mins
Thanks, Robert :)
agree Tushar Deep
6 hrs
Thanks, Tushar :)
agree acetran
4 days
Thanks, acetran :)
agree Harry Crawford
5 days
Thanks, Harry :)
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