Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

возникновение ипотеки Квартиры в пользу Кредитора

English translation:

[confirming] that the Apartment has been mortgaged to the benefit of the Creditor

Added to glossary by Oleg Lozinskiy
Feb 4, 2016 12:44
8 yrs ago
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Russian term

возникновение ипотеки Квартиры в пользу Кредитора

Russian to English Law/Patents Real Estate Mortgage
предоставление документов, подтверждающих возникновение ипотеки Квартиры в пользу Кредитора

Спасибо
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Feb 6, 2016 10:51: Oleg Lozinskiy Created KOG entry

Discussion

Igor Popov Feb 5, 2016:
Ни фига себе у нас дискуссия развернулась Круче только комментарии к статье в The National Interst по результатам визита Kissinger в Москву
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/kissingers-vision-us-rus...
Katerina O. (asker) Feb 4, 2016:
ну, гугл так и предлагает. но чтобы были совсем по-австралийски, то квартира - unit
Oleg Lozinskiy Feb 4, 2016:
To: ASKER Напишите 'emergence of the Apartment's/Suite's mortgage to the benefit of the Creditor' (будет 'по-австралийски'). :-)
Katerina O. (asker) Feb 4, 2016:
creation of mortgage спасибо всем за активное участие. небольшое дополнение. я перевожу для австралии. И там существует таки creation of mortgage в законодательстве. Это не "возникновение"?
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/tas/consol_act/lta1980127...
Igor Popov Feb 4, 2016:
Павел, ну не принимайте всётак близко к сердцу просто ваша фраза creation of mortgage over the Apartment in favour of the Creditor не совсем понятна носителям английского языка, я тоже только что проверил это уже на нескольких американцах.

А вообще Мир, Дружба, Жвачка!!! Улыбайтесь чаще
Igor Popov Feb 4, 2016:
Олег, прямо как в анекдоте :-)
Адвокат сын приходит к отцу, старому адвокату. - Папа, поздравь меня. Я выиграл дело, которое ты не мог выиграть в течение 10 лет. - Прими мои соболезнования, сын. - Но почему? - Ты только что лишил нашу семью источника дохода, который позволял содержать её все эти 10 лет
Oleg Lozinskiy Feb 4, 2016:
Как переводить 'кривые' формулировки исходника? Imho, по возможности столь же 'криво', чтобы привлечь внимание 'лоеров' другой стороны и породить их вопросы. А после того, как 'лоеры' обмозгуют, потолкуют и поправят ('исходник'), глядишь, и переводчику снова на хлеб с маслом перепадет. :-)
Igor Popov Feb 4, 2016:
Миша абсолютно прав Это кривая формулировка на русском языке. Слова "в пользу Кредитора" - лишние, поскольку ипотека и так подразумевает, что вы должны отдавать деньги кредитору, а кому же еще.
возникновение ипотеки - mortgage origination
http://www.investorwords.com/7169/mortgage_origination.html
Таким образом наверное должно быть что-то вроде
documents to show proof of mortgage

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[confirming] that the Apartment has been mortgaged to the benefit of the Creditor

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Peer comment(s):

agree Marie_D : Lender
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Thank you, Marie!
agree Pavel Altukhov : non-native, to quote The MIsha
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Thank you, Pavel! Re: 'native' vs. 'non-native'... As born in New York, NY (namely, in the Le Roy Hospital) I can claim that I am a 'native' speaker of the English language (and even run for the U.S. Presidency). So what? :-)
agree Igor Popov : в свете разразившейся дискуссии :-)
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Спасибо, Игорь!
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[confirming] that the mortgaged apartment has been pledged to the lender

It's more usual to say 'lender' than creditor, especially for retail customers. Rather than saying 'mortgaged in favor of' etc. it's more natural to say 'pledged to' etc.
Peer comment(s):

agree The Misha : As an American, I am not too big on "pledging," but it works here, I guess. The bigger problem is that this is a formulation you'd never come across in an original English doc on the issue. Some things are just said differently in different languages.
1 hr
Thanks Misha!
agree Igor Popov
2 hrs
Спасибо, Игорь!
disagree Pavel Altukhov : Just provide a single link to support your version
3 hrs
I really can't be bothered. I am here to help the Asker, not to teach you English
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please see explanation:

proving the documents confirming ...

... the registration of a mortgage on the Apartment in favo[u]r of the Lender.

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... that a mortgage has been registered on the Apartment in favo[u]r of the Lender.

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Oops, a typo: PROVIDING, not proving.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Pavel Altukhov : Pathetic nonsense
25 mins
Thank you Pavel for such a deep and comprehensive comment!
agree Ilan Rubin (X) : Думаю, что кто-то несправедливо снизил Вам оценку :-)
1 hr
Thank you, Ilan.
agree Igor Popov
19 hrs
Thank you, Igor.
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creation of mortgage over the Apartment in favour of the Creditor

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Creation of a mortgage, to be more exact

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Just an example: http://edinformatics.com/real_estate/about_mortgages.htm


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You can create a mortgage. Yes, we can.

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There is another link for you. Hope you can read.


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http://www.gov.me/files/1150974163.pdf

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The Misha: You have already tried to browbeat me brandishing your US passport. This piece of cardboard does not make any cleverer.

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Is this link good enough for you, Anton B.?
http://chestofbooks.com/real-estate/Mortgage-Law/Sec-42-How-...

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I can supply thousands of links for those who are either lazy, or just have a grudge against me. No problems. Don't think that you smother me by sheer numbers. Look at my avatar.


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Yes, you can't be bothered. Big Dealer. Trying to learn Russian in a crash course.


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To Anton B.: I am just trying to emulate you!


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To Misha: Just stop waiving your certificate of birth and telling other people that they are not native. You mention your US birth in your every post, it's ridiculous to use it as a lever and pressure tool for your contributions. You'll make yourself a laughing stock.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Ilan Rubin (X) : You cannot 'create a mortgage'. Sorry, but that's rubbish
6 mins
Simple search of the Internet disproves your point of view
disagree The Misha : Whether you think you can or not,it's not what they normally say in the industry.Get/obtain/take out a mortgage-yes.Create a mrtgge?In some esoteric sense,perhaps,or speaking of some synthtic trnsctns that may have the effect of a mrtgge.Not here though.
2 hrs
Have you seen the link, man? It's not what you think that is important, bu the objective truth. Why do you imagine yourself The Industry?
disagree Anton B : Wow jokes! Do you even read the links that you provide, man? One link looking like wiki doesn't even have a "create a mortgage" phrase. The other link is a Law of the Republic of Montenegro where they definitely speak the most correct English :)
3 hrs
Look for other links, if you can click a mouse. And look for 'creation of a mortgage'
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