Oct 18, 2015 10:08
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Spanish term

Absorber una cocina de otra

Spanish to English Other Cooking / Culinary
Hola, me gustaría saber como se traduciría al inglés la expresión española de "absorber" cuando hablamos de distintas gastronomías.
Dentro de la mezcla de gastronomías del país, es de platos de la cocina mexicana como los tacos o los nachos, de donde la cocina americana más ha absorbido.
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Discussion

Erzsébet Czopyk Oct 18, 2015:
absorb vs. integrate There is a tiny border between absord and integrate. Absorb means (IMHO) totally accept, or experience (=Absorb local culture through walking and eating) integrate means in couisine is to prepare the same food from the local ingredients and accept its roots (surrounding culture) so (IMHO again) it sounds better. You can say absorption of nutrients, but the cuisine is a part of a national culture which shall be not absorbed but integrated into another one.
Physically "That final flash in the pan means the last little bit of absorption before the pasta reaches al dente will be full of flavour."
I just try to explain when something is integrated the process is two-way: "teachers are offered specific ways of integrating culture into their classrooms" in the same time you preserve your own but learn something new. Such a two-way flow is mutually beneficial.
I finally figured out how too say simply: it sounds too literally to me.

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fuse/ fusion

'Fusion' is the most commonly used concept[t to describe the integration of parts of one type of gastronomy into another, hence I would translate as follows:

Dentro de la mezcla de gastronomías del país, es de platos de la cocina mexicana como los tacos o los nachos, de donde la cocina americana más ha absorbido.

"Within the mix of gastronomic traditions in the country, it is dishes from Mexican cuisine such as tacos and nachos which have most undergone fusion into American cuisine/ gastronomic traditions"
Peer comment(s):

agree Erzsébet Czopyk : "One recent example is fusion cuisine, which combines elements of various culinary traditions while 'not being categorized' per any one cuisine style." I set agree why it does not appeared?
52 mins
Exactly Erzsébet!
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Spanish term (edited): absorber

absorb

It's just the same in English.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Martin : British cuisine has absorbed the cultural influence of those who have settled in Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_cuisine
8 mins
agree Carol Gullidge : No doubt one of several possibilities
22 mins
agree Charles Davis : I don't think there's anything wrong with "absorb" and in fact I think it's better than any of the alternatives I can think of. It implies assimilation that is to some extent unconscious and unplanned, and I think that's the sense.
8 hrs
agree Isamar : In this case, this is, in IMHO, the correct word!
8 hrs
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integrated

A paper towels to absorb any excess fat or liquid.
The couisine can be integrated into another

Food in the USA: A Reader - 1969. oldal - A Google Könyvek találata
https://books.google.hu/books?isbn=1135323526 - Oldal lefordítása
Carole Counihan - 2013 - ‎Social Science
xvi and the role of the military and corporations in creating food markets and ... is interesting because it readily became integrated into the national cuisine, ...

Integrated Food Studies - Aalborg University
www.en.aau.dk/education/master/integrated-food-studies
Master in Integrated Food Studies at Aalborg University, Denmark, will give you the possibility to study food and its many meanings in society. The master offers ...

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The European Food Project - ERICarts European Institute ...
www.ericarts.org/web/files/.../european_food_project.pd...
Traditional recipes are gradually being brought into the marketplace by "grandma" ... The relevance of food and cuisine today as indices of integration in Europe ...

Using Traditional Cuisine Contexts as a Channel for Inter ...
www.researchgate.net/.../239937431_Using_Traditional... -
The purpose of the study was to find out the influence of traditional food on social integration among ethnic communities in selected cultural theme nights, ...

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Strategic Questions in Food and Beverage Management
https://books.google.hu/books?isbn=1136362096 -
Roy C. Wood - 2010 - ‎Business & Economics
This raises the question of how far a national cuisine is related to national borders. ... The greater the division of a society into classes, castes and status groups with their ... Similarly, political and social integration can erode ethnic boundaries.

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“Good to Eat, Good to Think”: Constructing a Discourse of ...
upperclassmonroe.blogs.wm.edu › Monroe 2011
... 1960s' socialist “counter-culture” that inspired a “counter-cuisine” of homegrown sustenance tend to retard local food's integration into American society. ... will explore the development of a national “language of food” in Italy ..

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Negotiating cultural boundaries: Food, travel and consumer ...
www.academia.edu/.../Negotiating_cultural_boundaries_...
food integration practices

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http://mcomments.outlookindia.com/story.aspx?sid=4&aid=26343...
Is a Palghat Brahmin who spent the first 18 years of his life in Tamil Nadu, gorging on avial, sambar and koottu, qualified to write about their food? Why not? He did, after all, spend the best two decades of his life (from age 18 to 39) in Gujarat, most of it as a reporter, travelling to all parts of the state and sampling different types of Gujarati food. Home food, PG food, lodge food and restaurant food, and finally, mother-in-law’s food. Yes, reader, I married into a Gujarati family where the lady of the house had magic in her hands and the daughter, despite being a convert to sambar, rasam and thair-sadam with limbu pickle, still managed to produce exquisite Gujarati food. This was real national food integration.

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What Does Integration Mean - Durham Immigration Portal
https://www.durhamimmigration.ca/.../WhatDoesIntegrat...
The important thing about integration is that the individual cultures, and members of cultural communities, are welcomed and accepted for what they are.

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Soviet cuisine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_cuisine
Soviet cuisine, the common cuisine of the Soviet Union, was formed by the integration of the various national cuisines of the Soviet Union, in the course of the ...

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Example for 'incorporation' (its sounds too official for my ears)

Jasmine Dawn Samuel: New Ethnicities: Caribbean Cuisine and Identity
Contemporary Caribbean food has borrowed ingredients, recipes, and traditions from a
variety of cultures, but the unification of these cultures within one regional identity and
experience has also influenced these recipes to evolve in a Caribbean (and Vincentian, Jamaican, Trinidadian, Barbadian, etc.) context, creating a unique version and incorporation of food traditional to different ethnic, cultural, and national cuisines.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Carol Gullidge : You could be on the right lines BUT most of your links are quite irrelevant to the meaning in this question :( //trouble is, you found TOO MANY links that are irrelevant here! No need for sadness, just more-targeted research :). And perhaps a lower CR?
17 mins
Thank you very much, Carol, I try to find some useful things, which can describe the use of the expression and I am very sad if you consider them bad :( initially I set three (if you do not check and you set badly it remains 5 :( you would like to clear
neutral Andrew Bramhall : I don't think Carol is saying that it's bad, more that 'integration' is used for people and systems, etc, rather than for food.
54 mins
A cuisine (/kwɪˈziːn/ kwi-zeen; from French [kɥizin], in turn from Latin coquere = "to cook") is a style of cooking characterized by distinctive ingredients, techniques and dishes, and usually associated with a specific culture or geographic region.
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has taken more of its inspiration

A less literal translation.
Example sentence:

bands of the time to have taken more of its inspiration from the Velvet Underground than from boogie-all-night prototypes like Lynyrd Skynyrd

The shape of the Admiral has taken its inspiration from the cruise liners of the 1930's, with a style that is suited to any luxurious interior.

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