Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
moederblok
English translation:
base engine block, universal engine block, weight carrier, weight holder, weight bracket, depending on the context/position on the machine
Added to glossary by
Peter Simon
Jun 17, 2015 19:54
8 yrs ago
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Dutch term
moederblok
Dutch to English
Tech/Engineering
Automotive / Cars & Trucks
part
Dear colleagues,
Does anyone know the English for this piece on the front of a tractor, like on the front of a model in this picture: http://www.farmmodels.nl/Webwinkel-Product-14152793/20759-Jo... or in these pictures: https://www.google.nl/search?q=moederblok&tbm=isch&tbo=u&sou... I haven't got a technical dictionary that has it. (Could I find it in the on-line VanDale, do you think?)
It comes in such a sentence like this, "De innovatie - bij gebleken haalbaarheid – is dat XXX de bandbreedte van een en hetzelfde moederblok groter maakt over een vermogens delta van ca 50 kW".
Great thanks for a solution. P
Does anyone know the English for this piece on the front of a tractor, like on the front of a model in this picture: http://www.farmmodels.nl/Webwinkel-Product-14152793/20759-Jo... or in these pictures: https://www.google.nl/search?q=moederblok&tbm=isch&tbo=u&sou... I haven't got a technical dictionary that has it. (Could I find it in the on-line VanDale, do you think?)
It comes in such a sentence like this, "De innovatie - bij gebleken haalbaarheid – is dat XXX de bandbreedte van een en hetzelfde moederblok groter maakt over een vermogens delta van ca 50 kW".
Great thanks for a solution. P
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +1 | (the same) engine | John Holloway |
4 | (front) weight bracket | Michael Beijer |
Proposed translations
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(the same) engine
They are talking about an innovation (which could be an aspect of an equipment drive, or not) which increases/flexes engine output/power in relation to a standard, mother block or power source used in a wide variety of different tractors/applications. Because the power can be varied one can now use the same engine block (set to produce different levels of power using the innovation) in different tractors or applications. The word moederblok is here being used as standard block or standard engine - as in the case of the Rover V8 engine based on the Buick V8 mother block - which became the common power plant for a wide variety of cars, sportscars and 4wds. I don't think mother block is a standard equivalent for moederblok and to invent one would require explanation and be unnecessary and redundant. The source text in any event adds the word hetzelfde, meaning common or the same. So I used this instead of mother. I have also not (redundantly) repeated the use of delta or range in the sample sentence, below. Instead, the meaning of delta in the source is covered by the use of 'up to' in the sample. I suspect indeed that the source sentence is unfortunately constructed.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2015-06-18 09:20:03 GMT)
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motorblok = engine vs. block vs. cylinder block:
I think that an engine or engine block, in the mind of the source author, becomes a mother engine or mother block when it is the basic power plant in a variety of power output variations or other applications. The reason they use both mother and motor block is that Dutch often call an engine a block. While English usage distinguishes between engine - complete - and engine block: The latter being just the part below the head, containing cylinders and crankshaft - also referred to as the cylinder block. So it looks to me as if you should use engine throughout for motorblok and standard/source/the same engine when translating moederblok. Of course if the source intended to refer specifically to the cylinder block rather than the whole engine, then use standard or common cylinder block and not engine as the translation. This would apply, for instance, if the innovation relates specifically to the head - and that the head is therefore the innovative, variable element in the engine which, coupled with the same or standard cylinder block, enables variable power.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2015-06-18 09:20:03 GMT)
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motorblok = engine vs. block vs. cylinder block:
I think that an engine or engine block, in the mind of the source author, becomes a mother engine or mother block when it is the basic power plant in a variety of power output variations or other applications. The reason they use both mother and motor block is that Dutch often call an engine a block. While English usage distinguishes between engine - complete - and engine block: The latter being just the part below the head, containing cylinders and crankshaft - also referred to as the cylinder block. So it looks to me as if you should use engine throughout for motorblok and standard/source/the same engine when translating moederblok. Of course if the source intended to refer specifically to the cylinder block rather than the whole engine, then use standard or common cylinder block and not engine as the translation. This would apply, for instance, if the innovation relates specifically to the head - and that the head is therefore the innovative, variable element in the engine which, coupled with the same or standard cylinder block, enables variable power.
Example sentence:
This innovation enables the power output of the same engine to be increased by up to 50 KW.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Barend van Zadelhoff
: See also discussion. I further trust on your knowledge in the field.
6 hrs
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thanks - though i think it ended as universal (engine) block! Synonym-land really.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, John, exceedingly useful comments."
40 mins
(front) weight bracket
see:
"WEIGHT BRACKETS & WEIGHTS
[…]
Front Weight Bracket" (http://is.gd/3XiVts )
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Note added at 41 mins (2015-06-17 20:36:22 GMT)
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PS: That ref I gave is a PDF called "INDEX FOR JOHN DEERE TRACTOR PARTS"
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Note added at 42 mins (2015-06-17 20:37:10 GMT)
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aka "weight carrier/holder"
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Note added at 55 mins (2015-06-17 20:49:50 GMT)
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correct link: http://www.tractorpartsasap.net/tractor-parts-catalog-downlo...
"WEIGHT BRACKETS & WEIGHTS
[…]
Front Weight Bracket" (http://is.gd/3XiVts )
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Note added at 41 mins (2015-06-17 20:36:22 GMT)
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PS: That ref I gave is a PDF called "INDEX FOR JOHN DEERE TRACTOR PARTS"
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Note added at 42 mins (2015-06-17 20:37:10 GMT)
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aka "weight carrier/holder"
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Note added at 55 mins (2015-06-17 20:49:50 GMT)
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correct link: http://www.tractorpartsasap.net/tractor-parts-catalog-downlo...
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Barend van Zadelhoff
: We did not carefully read the question. :-(
9 mins
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yeah, sorry, that was the wrong link. am away from computer, but will post correct one later (to PDF called "INDEX FOR JOHN DEERE TRACTOR PARTS")
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Discussion
Today most engines for cars, trucks, buses, tractors, and so on are built with fairly highly integrated design, so the words "monobloc" and "en bloc" are seldom used in describing them; such construction is often implicit. Thus "engine block", "cylinder block", or simply "block" are the terms likely to be heard in the garage or on the street.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder_block
moederblok/moedermotorblok = universal engine block/cylinder block
"- Verschillende vermogens- en emissie reductietechnologieën mogelijk op hetzelfde moedermotorblok" ('moedermotorblok' seems to make sensé)
"- Zo hoog mogelijk vermogen zonder toevoegmiddelen zoals SCR/Ad Blue"
and then
"Omdat .... door de compatibiliteit over meerdere modellen een- en hetzelfde moederblok gebruikt kan worden, zullen de volumes van de motor groter worden."
This last sentence seems to say:
One and the same 'moederblok' can be used in several models (because of compatibility) and because of this a larger number of engines will be produced/sold.
--> moederblok = (motorblok van de) motor
-->
XXX maakt de bandbreedte van een en hetzelfde moedermotorblok groter over een vermogens delta van ca 50 kW
If we replace 'delta' by 'bereik' / range -->
XXX maakt de bandbreedte van een en hetzelfde moedermotorblok groter over een vermogensbereik van ca 50 kW
What is meant by 'bandbreedte' here?
I don't think you read my entry carefully, just as I did not read Peter's question carefully :-).
I said:
I haven't even seen this sentence until now:
"De innovatie - bij gebleken haalbaarheid – is dat XXX de bandbreedte van een en hetzelfde moederblok groter maakt over een vermogens delta van ca 50 kW".
I just missed this sentence, probably because there seemed to be no doubt about, it was about the object referred to by the link:
Does anyone know the English for this piece on the front of a tractor, like on the front of a model in this picture: ...
You see what I mean?
Does anyone know the English for this piece on the front of a tractor, like on the front of a model in this picture:
:-)
In haven't even seen this sentence until now:
"De innovatie - bij gebleken haalbaarheid – is dat XXX de bandbreedte van een en hetzelfde moederblok groter maakt over een vermogens delta van ca 50 kW".
I now understand your question 'but does it make sense'?
:-)
I would not exclude your reading might be correct.
I just can't confirm it.
Even if we had the complete context, and I was interested in finding an answer, I needed to do research, since almost all I know about these machines is what they look like.
:-)
"Beoogde resultaten van het project in relatie tot de doelstelling(en)":
"- Een en hetzelfde moederblok voor alle vermogensklasses met hoog rendement per klasse"
"- Verschillende vermogens- en emissie reductietechnologieën mogelijk op hetzelfde moederblok"
"- Zo hoog mogelijk vermogen zonder toevoegmiddelen zoals SCR/Ad Blue"
and then
"Omdat .... door de compatibiliteit over meerdere modellen een- en hetzelfde moederblok gebruikt kan worden, zullen de volumes van de motor groter worden."
I've also asked the client for explanation and/or a solution. However, great thanks for your help.
Front weight support (moederblok) only = 670 lb (304 kg)
Quik-Tatch suitcase weights (each) = 100 lb (45 kg)
http://tinyurl.com/ojhsj9a
I posted this one already:
http://tinyurl.com/pgfx69n
http://tinyurl.com/pgfx69n
http://tinyurl.com/pr2jb37
Catégorie: Agricultural equipment
http://www.i-bidder.com/fr-fr/auction-catalogues/cheffins/ca...
Lot 699 - New Holland Front Weights & Base Block To fit TN Series
http://www.cheffins.co.uk/lot/-533821-machinery-0
What I miss in 'bracket' is that it isn't a 'block', and weight, like the 'moederblok'.
Best I have seen is linkage quick fit hooks used in place of the weight holder on the tractor then mount your massey weights on to a Massey weight carrier which can be quickly fitted on and off. There was someone making such a system which was at one of the European shows. If I get a chance tomorrow I will find a link to it as we (Profi) did a short news piece in the online news." (http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?20396-front-... )
above page links to:
"Pateer has come up with this simply system to replace a standard weight carrier. The hook ends mean ballast blocks are easier to fit. Another bonus is different makes of tractor can also use the same linkage mounted/coupled weight blocks." (http://www.profi.com/news/SIMA-Take-the-ache-out-of-weight-l... )
hmm, I think it's called a "weight bracket"
"10x gewichtplaten met moederblok om aan de trekker te maken."
Je hebt dus het moederblok (zie afbeelding)
Daar kun je die gewichtplaten in ophangen.
Was dat je duidelijk?
oh, wait, those are the weights themselves, whereas your refs seem to indicate the "moederblok" is what these connect to. hmm