Jun 2, 2015 14:17
8 yrs ago
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Swedish term
United Kingdom
Experienced central bank translator
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Swedish to English, Norwegian to English, Danish to English
stam
Swedish to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
A building's significant parts for accounting purposes are: stomme, stammar, fasad, tak
Am completely clueless in this area - shell, XXX, facade and roof?
Am completely clueless in this area - shell, XXX, facade and roof?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +1 | trunk (trunking) |
Deane Goltermann
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| 5 | utilities |
Michael Ellis
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| 4 | service conduit |
Agneta Pallinder
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| 3 | watewater pipes |
Diarmuid Kennan
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Proposed translations
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9 mins
Deane Goltermann
Sweden
Sweden
Native in Swedish
&
English
Works in field
Sweden
Easy reading - Good writing
Native in: English 
, Swedish
Works in: Swedish to English
Related KudoZ points
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513
Selected
trunk (trunking)
Look for this term in relation to buildings and you'll find how it is used. Yess this is the building innards ... plumbing, wiring, etc.
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Note added at 13 mins (2015-06-02 14:31:16 GMT)
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As in 'mains trunking' and 'trunk and branch plumbing" ... and more
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Note added at 17 mins (2015-06-02 14:34:57 GMT)
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Or ... you can combine mine and Agneta's suggestion ... service trunking! ;-)
For some interesting reading ... https://dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace-jspui/bitstream/2134/15241...
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Note added at 29 mins (2015-06-02 14:47:03 GMT)
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Ducting is different... involves the details of the trunking. You'll likely see ducting for the wiring of the trunk lines, and such, and for ventilation, if there's central ventilation for your building.
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Note added at 13 mins (2015-06-02 14:31:16 GMT)
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As in 'mains trunking' and 'trunk and branch plumbing" ... and more
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Note added at 17 mins (2015-06-02 14:34:57 GMT)
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Or ... you can combine mine and Agneta's suggestion ... service trunking! ;-)
For some interesting reading ... https://dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace-jspui/bitstream/2134/15241...
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Note added at 29 mins (2015-06-02 14:47:03 GMT)
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Ducting is different... involves the details of the trunking. You'll likely see ducting for the wiring of the trunk lines, and such, and for ventilation, if there's central ventilation for your building.
Note from asker:
| I'd just got to "ducting" - same thing or different? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Agneta Pallinder
: Snap! for the meaning at least, even if we chose different terms
4 mins
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Yes, see my added note!
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| agree |
sans22 (X)
14 hrs
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Thanks!
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| disagree |
Michael Ellis
: I have wrecked this! My answer to Agneta's suggestion should be here and the following sentence under Agneta's suggestions.
19 hrs
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Concede on the plural, but my reference indicates the root 'trunk' is used as the term of choice for the construction design where all utilities are installed in a single 'column' in buildings, tho larger buildings may have more than one such column.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone. Would split the points if I could..."
12 mins
Agneta Pallinder
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Swedish
&
English
United Kingdom
Your bridge between Swedish and English
Native in: Swedish , English (Variants: UK, British)
Works in: Swedish to English, English to Swedish, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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55
service conduit
Water, electricity etc. plumbing, pipes, conduits generally - good article here http://www.dinbyggare.se/communicate/artiklar/article.aspx?i...
And stomme isn't really shell but the loadbearing framework, which could be timber or steel or other material - see here http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stomme
And stomme isn't really shell but the loadbearing framework, which could be timber or steel or other material - see here http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stomme
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Deane Goltermann
: See my added note!
6 mins
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Indeed!
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| disagree |
Michael Ellis
: Too literal a translation (and not of 'stammar'). See my answer.
19 hrs
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Thanks for contributing Michael!
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12 mins
Diarmuid Kennan
Ireland
Ireland
Native in English
Ireland
Reliable and accurate
Native in: English
Works in: Danish to English, Norwegian to English, Swedish to English
Related KudoZ points
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84
watewater pipes
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19 hrs
Michael Ellis
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Extensive experience in industry
Native in: English (Variants: US, British)
Works in: Swedish to English, Norwegian to English
Related KudoZ points
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112
Swedish term (edited):
stammar
utilities
Note that the word required to be translated is 'stammar' not just 'stam'.
We need to translate this into something easily understood by monoglot anglophones.
Stammar covers the distribution of all services/utilities in a building,and their connection to the network suppliers, as Agneta's reference clearly explains.
Utilities Distribution System would be better but I think Utilities alone is simpler and probably enough.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2015-06-03 09:43:52 GMT)
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Oh dear, it gets worse, I need my stammar changing!
Deane: I think Trunk is too literal.
Agneta: Service conduit is but part of the distribution system and is a possible translation of Stam (singular), whereas Stammar is the whole system.
I am sorry, folks, for this wreckage. I hope Chris can salvage something.
We need to translate this into something easily understood by monoglot anglophones.
Stammar covers the distribution of all services/utilities in a building,and their connection to the network suppliers, as Agneta's reference clearly explains.
Utilities Distribution System would be better but I think Utilities alone is simpler and probably enough.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2015-06-03 09:43:52 GMT)
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Oh dear, it gets worse, I need my stammar changing!
Deane: I think Trunk is too literal.
Agneta: Service conduit is but part of the distribution system and is a possible translation of Stam (singular), whereas Stammar is the whole system.
I am sorry, folks, for this wreckage. I hope Chris can salvage something.
Discussion
This has the advantage of less visible piping, which looks nice. Once in a while, however, every ten years or so, there will be "stambyte". This means that all the main pipes within the shaft are replaced. Bathrooms are usually refurbished as part of this process. Live long enough in Sweden, and you can be sure to experience the curse of stambyte!
Stambyte actually has an entry in Rikstermbanken:
Definition: byte av tappvatten- och avloppsrör
Anmärkning: Om nödvändigt värmerör i badrumsgolv. Byte av tätskikt i badrum.